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Savington 09-14-2012 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 926714)
Sav: you running one of these?

Got one as soon as I could get my hands on one, yes. One junked $4000 race motor is one too many.

triple88a 09-14-2012 09:34 PM

Sav, have you guys done any testing on that? A replacement for that ugly upper manifold piece?

Savington 09-14-2012 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 927090)
Sav, have you guys done any testing on that? A replacement for that ugly upper manifold piece?

? I don't know what you're referring to. A replacement upper intake manifold?

triple88a 09-14-2012 10:17 PM

You know how the manifold is split into 2 pieces? The upper piece of the manifold has a wimpy 2" diameter bottle neck right after the throttle body.

Savington 09-14-2012 10:20 PM

The stock manifold does. The squaretop improves on that drastically, and any aftermarket intake manifold does as well. I have no idea why you would bother replacing the upper half when you could just change the entire thing and see even more of a gain.

TurboTim 09-14-2012 11:44 PM

OK so a replacement top half that is similar to the square top and has a throttle body flange for the small ford pattern (I used a $45 shipped 65mm crown vic TB. Included the TPS/pigtail & works with the miata throttle cable end). Should be doable for less than an entire new intake manifold. No whistle on the ford throttle bodies cause no IAC. bwahahaaha. Simple fix with another bracket.

triple88a 09-15-2012 12:37 AM

Hmm whatever came of the top mount throttle body, intake manifold begi was working on? Sure probably looks funny but if it gets rid of the uneven flow why does it matter?

hustler 09-15-2012 08:00 AM

The whistles go "woo".

MartinezA92 10-05-2012 01:04 PM

So lets say that I wanted to wait on buying one of these because of a lack of funds at the moment. Is welding or JB welding the screws on the stock one an acceptable temporary solution? Does it stop the engine from ingesting the screws or does something else get swallowed when the throttle shaft breaks?

hustler 10-05-2012 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by MartinezA92 (Post 936109)
So lets say that I wanted to wait on buying one of these because of a lack of funds at the moment. Is welding or JB welding the screws on the stock one an acceptable temporary solution? Does it stop the engine from ingesting the screws or does something else get swallowed when the throttle shaft breaks?

Use two-part epoxy. I do it on throttle bodies and VICS butterflies.

DeerHunter 10-05-2012 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 936158)
Use two-part epoxy. I do it on throttle bodies and VICS butterflies.

Have the VICS butterflies been known to fall apart, or are you just being extra-cautious?

MartinezA92 10-07-2012 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 936158)
Use two-part epoxy. I do it on throttle bodies and VICS butterflies.

Is JB weld basically a two part epoxy or am I about to make a horrible decision?

rleete 10-07-2012 10:52 PM

Yes, JB Weld is 2 part. It's also one of the best available for metals.

hingstonwm 10-17-2012 08:37 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Here is the throttle body on my 1.6 car. It is also available in the 1.8 version. Last I checked cost was $ 410.00 plus a core.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1350520678
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1350520678

$400 is expensive for a throttle body but whats an engine cost?

triple88a 10-17-2012 09:04 PM

Uck for 400 bucks i'll look for alternatives

Savington 10-17-2012 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 940504)
Uck for 400 bucks i'll look for alternatives

Not to be a dick, but this is basically what everyone who's never broken a throttle shaft is going to say. I have a $4000 built motor in pieces in the shop because it ate a throttle screw - I would have gladly paid $1000 for an upgraded throttle body a year ago had I known it was going to break 8 hours after installing that motor.

If you don't think it's worth $300 or $400 or whatever, just wait until you're replacing a motor because your OEM TB broke. That's usually pretty convincing.

AllSystemsNominal 10-18-2012 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 936158)
Use two-part epoxy. I do it on throttle bodies and VICS butterflies.

Pretty sure I remember Emilio saying in a post that he does this on his track cars and hasnt had a TB shaft failure since

AllSystemsNominal 10-18-2012 01:50 AM

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Savington 10-18-2012 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by AllSystemsNominal (Post 940564)
Pretty sure I remember Emilio saying in a post that he does this on his track cars and hasnt had a TB shaft failure since

A lot can happen in a year.

mx5-kiwi 10-18-2012 04:48 AM

Does this happen to the 1600 TB as well?


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