Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: KPower

our first ported oem intake manifold

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-03-2011, 03:20 PM
  #21  
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Renown Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 487
Total Cats: 4
Default

YAY! you the man!
your a man right. lol
Renown Performance is offline  
Old 11-03-2011, 03:52 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
redturbomiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: London,OH
Posts: 1,139
Total Cats: 13
Default

I wonder what you can do with a 90-93, seein as how it doesn't have egr.
redturbomiata is offline  
Old 11-03-2011, 04:33 PM
  #23  
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 15,177
Total Cats: 1,681
Default

I am almost certain that is my old 94 IM that I just sent them. I can not wait to see what type of numbers it makes.
shuiend is offline  
Old 11-03-2011, 05:12 PM
  #24  
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Renown Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 487
Total Cats: 4
Default

That it is! Very excited how it turned out personally!

-Sam
Renown Performance is offline  
Old 11-04-2011, 07:20 AM
  #25  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Doppelgänger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,850
Total Cats: 71
Default

Originally Posted by Renown Performance
YAY! you the man!
your a man right. lol
Depends on the day...
Doppelgänger is offline  
Old 11-04-2011, 05:00 PM
  #26  
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Renown Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 487
Total Cats: 4
Default

LOL. ooooh Fridays!
Renown Performance is offline  
Old 11-07-2011, 10:41 PM
  #27  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Y8s FYI I have a 99-00 intake that is completely gutted.
Faeflora is offline  
Old 11-07-2011, 10:41 PM
  #28  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

BTW Renown, please measure volume before and after port/gut.

I gained about .7 or something liters after gut
Faeflora is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 10:13 AM
  #29  
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 573
Default

Originally Posted by Faeflora
Y8s FYI I have a 99-00 intake that is completely gutted.
Yeah I'm still unconvinced that it's a worthwhile mod but then I haven't seen apples-apples dyno plots comparing a stock 99, 01, gutted 99, and Keith's dual runner style 99, and an 01 with the VTCS removed.

But I'd like to.

Oh Reeeeeknownnnnnn?
y8s is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 12:01 PM
  #30  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Originally Posted by y8s
Yeah I'm still unconvinced that it's a worthwhile mod but then I haven't seen apples-apples dyno plots comparing a stock 99, 01, gutted 99, and Keith's dual runner style 99, and an 01 with the VTCS removed.

But I'd like to.

Oh Reeeeeknownnnnnn?
Hey now, two dyno days ago, I demonstrated a lovely flat HP line holding to redline. Proof of gut airflow joy. And that was with a big *** boost sag too.
Faeflora is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 12:33 PM
  #31  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

what? if anything that proved your setup sucked big time.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 12:44 PM
  #32  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
what? if anything that proved your setup sucked big time.
Sigh... maybe you're right. But I will dyno again next week and report here. Boost is holding steady to redline now so results should be useful.
Faeflora is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 12:59 PM
  #33  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

cuase if anything, the better flowing IM will keep the TQ flatter longer, thus the HP peaking later.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 02:01 PM
  #34  
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 573
Default

Originally Posted by Faeflora
Hey now, two dyno days ago, I demonstrated a lovely flat HP line holding to redline. Proof of gut airflow joy. And that was with a big *** boost sag too.
that's fine
now put a stock manifold on yoru car with exactly the same setup and do it again.
y8s is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 02:08 PM
  #35  
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
Renown Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 487
Total Cats: 4
Default

Originally Posted by Faeflora
BTW Renown, please measure volume before and after port/gut.

I gained about .7 or something liters after gut
Yea the Extra volume will be measured we just wanted to get this first one opened up to show you guys what whats up. LOL

I am working with Ben at DIY Autotune about testing the different Manifolds for us. We hope to have dyno results soon. Its nice to keep things unbiased.

One thing we would like to make clear is that we are trying out a few different porting Theory's on the manifold, one may work better then the other. However we have an awesome Porting team that have mad porting skills yo! LOL. In all honesty though our team has years of experiences and will be applying what they know and and have seen work in past projects.
Renown Performance is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 07:22 PM
  #36  
Junior Member
 
oreo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario
Posts: 327
Total Cats: 95
Default

Originally Posted by y8s
I did this exact porting on my manifold, used in conjunction with a PD supercharger running at ~20psi. Opening the manifold valve, results in a boost drop of 2psi @ 7100rpm, indicating this mod improves flow. (it also increases boost at 2500rpm, so I am controlling the valve with a MS)

In turbo applications, I understand you are also looking for additional volume, so you probably want to remove as much material as possible.

Before:
Name:  preintakemanfoldmod.png
Views: 1612
Size:  67.1 KB
After:
Name:  afterintakemanifoldmod.png
Views: 1611
Size:  65.8 KB
oreo is offline  
Old 11-08-2011, 11:42 PM
  #37  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
triple88a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 10,454
Total Cats: 1,799
Default

Originally Posted by oreo
indicating this mod improves flow.
Any noticeable difference in power?
triple88a is offline  
Old 11-09-2011, 01:09 AM
  #38  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Originally Posted by triple88a
Any noticeable difference in power?
More flow = more air which + fuel = more power
Faeflora is offline  
Old 11-09-2011, 02:10 AM
  #39  
Elite Member
 
nitrodann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Posts: 2,826
Total Cats: 67
Default

Same setup and less boost at the plenum= more flow, more flow = more power.

What do you know, someone agrees with Fae. Just kidding mate.

Dann
nitrodann is offline  
Old 11-09-2011, 06:22 AM
  #40  
Junior Member
 
oreo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto Area, Ontario
Posts: 327
Total Cats: 95
Default

Originally Posted by Faeflora
More flow = more air which + fuel = more power
Yes, with a turbo, you should have constant boost, so the engine will be flowing more air, which means more power.

With a positive displacement supercharger, it's a little different. The supercharger will pump almost the same amount of air with 2 psi reduction in backpressure (boost). Lowering the boost, by reducing the engine restriction, will reduce the HP required to turn the supercharger, and allow the supercharger to pump a tiny bit more air.

I'm going to the dyno later this week, and intend on doing a run, with the butterflies in reversed position (open at low rpm, and closed at high rpm), to see what the HP difference is. I would expect there to be a larger difference with a turbo.
oreo is offline  


Quick Reply: our first ported oem intake manifold



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:46 AM.