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Forrest95M 02-22-2016 07:55 PM

Plumes of white smoke after MS installation
 
So after days of trying to get my MS working I finally did today. Then what I believe to be my head gasket has been blown. Car started and ran fine no smoke or oil burned at all. But after I installed my MS (after a rather lengthy trouble shoot because only 2 cylinders wanted to fire) the car smoked like a chimney. I though it was all that fuel from the unfired cylinder but then water was leaking out my tail pipe after my first 2 cylinder start. Could MS have done this? Or is it just coincidence? The cylinder head is the only place internal leaking could occurs right?

aidandj 02-22-2016 08:11 PM

Where do you live. If its been rainy its probably just condensation. I pulled apart my exhaust the other day and water poured out.

ryansmoneypit 02-22-2016 10:47 PM

What color did it smoke? White is coolant, black and blue is a shitty tune. Well, black mostly. With high humidity, my exhaust sprays water for like 3 or 4 minutes.

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1310160)
What color did it smoke? White is coolant, black and blue is a shitty tune. Well, black mostly. With high humidity, my exhaust sprays water for like 3 or 4 minutes.

read title

psyber_0ptix 02-23-2016 08:09 AM

You probably didn't know that seafoaming your car is not part of the standard MS install.

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1310131)
Where do you live. If its been rainy its probably just condensation. I pulled apart my exhaust the other day and water poured out.

I'm curious as to what it is, when I first put it in my barn it got really cold then hot, condensation was unbelievable, maybe absurd amounts of water entered the exhaust and its burning off. But it smelled really sweet and when i had the car running on 2 cylinders there was no smoke at all, so the break is probably on cylinder 1 or 4

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1310212)
You probably didn't know that seafoaming your car is not part of the standard MS install.

filled my car up with seawater, like the manual says

psyber_0ptix 02-23-2016 08:12 AM

Why are you determined to consider your engine toasted? You can fire two cylinders and not fuck things up. This just means your engine was in poor shape before megasquirt and your fishing for answers.

What does your wideband say? You do have a wideband right?

psyber_0ptix 02-23-2016 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1310214)
filled my car up with seawater, like the manual says

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456233228

Oh my god, you're definitely new to cars.



What did you mess up that caused your lengthy troubleshoot and running on two cylinders.

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1310215)
Why are you determined to consider your engine toasted? You can fire two cylinders and not fuck things up. This just means your engine was in poor shape before megasquirt and your fishing for answers.

What does your wideband say? You do have a wideband right?

Yes I have a wideband. I really think the head gasket is blown because it shows all the signs of a bad engine. It really does look like I seafoam'd my car. Car ran fine before ms installation, had good power and was really healthy with only 101k on the clock. The 2 cylinders were not firing because of a bad solder joint on an IAC output mod. Once I fixed that it smoked alot, maybe it was condensation, maybe it isn't. Thats what I'm trying to figure out. Wideband read that it was running lean at a 15.7-16:1. Pulled the plugs and re-calibrated the sensor, every thing was jet black. I dont want to run it alot until I figure out the issue because I heard coolant kills O2 sensors.

Downmented 02-23-2016 08:28 AM

Signs of a blown head gasket-
-Coolant leaking externally from bellow the exhaust manifold.
-White smoke from the exhaust pipe.
-Overheating engine.
-Bubbles in the radiator or coolant overflow tank.
-White milky oil.
-Significant loss of coolant with no visible leaks.

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:33 AM

Only sign I observed was white smoke and smell. Any major objections to run it more when I get home? Will check oil to see if it's milky. Seemed a good color when I pulled the dipstick yesterday. Thanks for the advice

psyber_0ptix 02-23-2016 08:44 AM

Pressure check the coolant system or see if you're blowing bubbles through the overflow tank.

Change your oil. Do a leakdown test on all cylinders. Built a new motor. Have a beer.

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1310223)
Pressure check the coolant system or see if you're blowing bubbles through the overflow tank.

Change your oil. Do a leakdown test on all cylinders. Built a new motor. Have a beer.

Would a head gasket show a compression test?

psyber_0ptix 02-23-2016 08:50 AM

Do you have a cat?

Girz0r 02-23-2016 08:51 AM

:laugh:

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1310225)
Do you have a cat?

Yes, but I don't have to pass emissions in MA and I'm sure it's the original cat

psyber_0ptix 02-23-2016 08:56 AM

Where in MA?

Do you have a dog?



Don't worry about running it more. If your oil is fine, clean the plugs or replace them. Allow your car to warm up and dial in idle and fuel so it's stoich. If you are still blowing smoke, then investigate other gasket possibilities. I doubt it'd be from the actual MS install. All your required fuel settings are correct? Stock injectors?

When I first started my car it ran pig rich, blew what looked like white smoke, but it was fine. Even firing on two cylinders, my engine was ok. Unless that was my last motor, and it actually blew up. But I don't remember. You'll be fine

Braineack 02-23-2016 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Forrest95M (Post 1310214)
filled my car up with seawater, like the manual says


Are you just trolling us?

you sound retarded.

Forrest95M 02-23-2016 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1310239)
Are you just trolling us?

you sound retarded.

Yes, I didn't understand how seafoam worked it's way into the equation so I figured I'd play along.


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