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-   -   Power Potential of Turbo vs. Motor... Uh, maybe not the best title (https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/power-potential-turbo-vs-motor-uh-maybe-not-best-title-70773/)

curly 02-03-2013 04:29 AM
Hyde, I should lock the thread with your comment, sums it up perfectly.

triple88a 02-03-2013 04:58 AM
Smaller turbos blow hot air yes however with a big enough intercooler to bring both temps down to say atmo temp then why is there still an hp difference? Efficiency of the turbo robbing the extra power?

Braineack 02-03-2013 09:23 AM
Originally Posted by hankclaussen (Post 974664)
Right. Me too, but that's going to be higher than 12psi right?
and?

Braineack 02-03-2013 09:24 AM
Originally Posted by hustler (Post 974675)
OMFG you little turbo crybaby ------s never shut up about this shit. Try vagina, seriously. I want a turbo that won't make target boost earlier than 3500rpm. That way I can get a larger turbine housing to make real torque.

I am a turboless ------.
shut up before i beat you with my wallet.

mr_hyde 02-03-2013 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 974765)
Smaller turbos blow hot air yes however with a big enough intercooler to bring both temps down to say atmo temp then why is there still an hp difference? Efficiency of the turbo robbing the extra power?
Intercoolers are a restriction too so you can't simply pair a big IC with a little turbo. If you have an undersized turbo working too hard (hmm, like my car?) and you oversize the intercooler to compensate, you start to lose some of the quick spool and throttle response you liked about the small turbo.

Every design's goal should be to take the coolest air possible, suck it into the turbo sized appropriately for your goals, heat that air as little as possible to the target boost so that the intercooler can be as small and free-flowing as possible to get IAT as close to ambient as possible. Sounds easy, right? :hustler:

hustler 02-03-2013 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 974783)
shut up before i beat you with my coin purse.
Fixed.

Braineack 02-03-2013 12:40 PM
Originally Posted by hustler (Post 974817)
Fixed.
both will hurt.

:brain:

Savington 02-04-2013 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by mr_hyde (Post 974760)
EFRs blow unicorn farts that spool instantly with air from the arctic.
:rofl:

Braineack 02-04-2013 08:53 AM
I thought unicorns hung out mostly around Crete?

mr_hyde 02-04-2013 10:49 AM
Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 975047)
I thought unicorns hung out mostly around Crete?
The SoCal guys have a corral of them. Emilio uses the sperm in Xida reservoirs. The new guy in the shop gets the lucky task of extracting it.

hankclaussen 02-04-2013 11:00 AM
Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 974753)
With the current drought in proper street tires I'm starting to wonder if it's worth even going above 300whp.

OP, fuck, just read the stickies and get a ride in a turbo car.
Was drunk but have turbo car; but Sav is on to me, kinda... I think 15 psi is probably below the break stuff limit for power on my small turbo but am/was not certain given the additional stress from either pressure or heat. I am also not certain I care about this motor so I may try or I may leave it alone.

hankclaussen 02-04-2013 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 974782)
and?
And nothing. That is all. :party:

Braineack 02-04-2013 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hankclaussen (Post 975148)
And nothing. That is all. :party:
exactly.

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