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OGWar 02-15-2016 11:50 AM

Quick Coolant Reroute Question
 
'96 1.8L going into a '92 chassis. Going to be running MSPNP2.

On the front coolant neck, do i use a 90-93 block off plate or 94+? From what I have seen, most guys run the 94+ block off plate without the therm switch hole. I'm assuming you just don't use that sensor anymore from the stock 1.6 harness?

Braineack 02-15-2016 12:10 PM

remove neck, add water plug and block off plate.

OGWar 02-15-2016 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1307879)
remove neck, add water plug and block off plate.

im still using coolant feeds for a turbo.

Joe Perez 02-15-2016 12:15 PM

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It really depends on how you have your MSPnP is configured.

If you set up an output of the MS to provide a closure to ground on pin 1R of the stock ECU connector, and configure it to close when CLT > [setpoint] (with a little hysteresis), then you can eliminate the front neck and run a solid block-off plate, or use it as a water source for the turbo. This ECU wire is functionally parallel to the thermoswitch:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455556506

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455556506

OGWar 02-15-2016 12:19 PM

I don't have the pnp2 yet, so the wiring diagram is new to me.

Joe Perez 02-15-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OGWar (Post 1307885)
I don't have the pnp2 yet, so the wiring diagram is new to me.

My brain was a little scrambled when I wrote that. I thought you were talking about a DIYPnP.

The MSPnP2 is already set up to control the fan. Go to the very bottom of the documentation (here) and look at the section for jumper J8. You'll need to install that jumper, which is not present by default, and the ECU will control the fan. You may then remove the thermoswitch.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455557622

OGWar 02-15-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1307887)
My brain was a little scrambled when I wrote that. I thought you were talking about a DIYPnP.

The MSPnP2 is already set up to control the fan. Go to the very bottom of the documentation (here) and look at the section for jumper J8. You'll need to install that jumper, which is not present by default, and the ECU will control the fan. You may then remove the thermoswitch.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455557622

Appreciate it!

Braineack 02-15-2016 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by OGWar (Post 1307881)
im still using coolant feeds for a turbo.

then just block it off and still use it. or source from the port just above the oil feed.

OGWar 02-15-2016 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1307900)
then just block it off and still use it. or source from the port just above the oil feed.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Joe Perez 02-15-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OGWar (Post 1307902)
Thanks for the suggestions.

The cool-kids way:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455561432
(Image stolen from BEGI)

An NPT barb or -AN fitting is screwed into the hole, and water for the turbo is sourced from this point. The line is connected to the top of the turbo, and the outlet water from the bottom of the turbo is plumbed into a low point in the system such as the mixing manifold.

This routing encourages convective circulation of coolant through the turbo after the engine is shut off.

OGWar 02-15-2016 01:51 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1455562281

I'm just gonna go this route and not use the front thermo switch with the MSPNP2.


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