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delturcious 03-23-2022 05:29 PM

Rotella T6 Out of stock everywhere - Now What?
 
I've used nothing but Rotella T6 5w40 in my MSM for the last 10 years (like many others here), but it's out of stock everywhere around me. The Ford truck people say it's due to supply chain issues with additives. What are all the T6 diehards using right now that you can actually buy locally?

This car has only been driven about 4000 miles in the last 3 years--it's not getting Amsoil/RP/RL or any other mail order exotic oil.

codrus 03-23-2022 05:59 PM

If you're beating on it at the track then it's worth mail ordering stuff. If you're not, then it doesn't really matter, pretty much any brand-name synthetic of the right viscosity will be fine. Mobil 1 is probably the easy button.

--Ian

technicalninja 03-24-2022 12:05 AM

I'd use Mobil1 0w-40 European car formula

Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart - Walmart.com

It's got more ZDDP than normal formula, it's close to the same weight, and it's cheaper than the Rotella.

WigglingWaffles 03-24-2022 07:04 AM

Have you checked grocery stores?
it sounds odd, but i've yet to not find a full shelf of t6 at a meijer and its always cheaper than parts stores.

LeoNA 03-24-2022 11:47 AM

Why not use something that is better for the time being until it is back in stock? The T6 is inexpensive which makes it attractive but there are much better products for your application. My suggestion would be Redline 5-40, 10-30 or the M1 0-40.

Chilicharger665 03-24-2022 02:03 PM

If you barely drive the car, then how can you justify NOT treating it to great oil? The cost is spread across multiple years.

thebeerbaron 03-24-2022 03:19 PM

I have a spare jug of this magical unicorn juice. I'll sell it to you for only 3x what I paid for it because I like you and I'm a good guy. You pay shipping.

In all seriousness, I think T6 is the choice of MT.net not because it's got some magical properties, but because it hit the sweet spot of price, availability, and features.

I agree with @codrus : any name-brand full-synthetic will do for your use case, especially if you're doing changes based on the calendar instead of miles.

Blkbrd69 03-24-2022 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by thebeerbaron (Post 1619425)
I have a spare jug of this magical unicorn juice. I'll sell it to you for only 3x what I paid for it because I like you and I'm a good guy. You pay shipping.

In all seriousness, I think T6 is the choice of MT.net not because it's got some magical properties, but because it hit the sweet spot of price, availability, and features.

I agree with @codrus : any name-brand full-synthetic will do for your use case, especially if you're doing changes based on the calendar instead of miles.

You do realize its not the same oil it was a few years ago?
Last I checked it was being reformulated again, which could be the disruption.
Note any time an oil is "reformulated" it gets worse, complements of the EPA.
Try an actual good oil.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/premium-pro...?code=AMOQT-EA

codrus 03-24-2022 09:42 PM

T6 was appealing at one point because the diesel oils kept the high ZDDP levels longer than the gas-engine oils did. That's no longer the case, so it's no longer special. That said, there's nothing wrong with T6 -- I run it in my diesel truck (the intended application) and it works fine.

But again, for street driving it really doesn't matter. Change it regularly and you'll be fine with pretty much any brand-name synthetic.

...I generally stay away from the ones that are sold via Ponzi schemes though. :)

--Ian

SIRIUS 03-24-2022 10:21 PM

Check with a local Dodge dealer. Some of the Cummins engines use T6 so they most likely keep it in stock. I am unsure if any other manufacturers use it but its worth a shot if you cant find it anywhere else.

Plus they may have it in single quart bottles.

HarryB 03-25-2022 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by technicalninja (Post 1619404)
I'd use Mobil1 0w-40 European car formula

Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart - Walmart.com

It's got more ZDDP than normal formula, it's close to the same weight, and it's cheaper than the Rotella.

This is what I run since I got the car, for the exact same reasons (plus no Rotella in EU AFAIK)

delturcious 03-25-2022 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Chilicharger665 (Post 1619418)
If you barely drive the car, then how can you justify NOT treating it to great oil? The cost is spread across multiple years.

Because I generally don't spread it across multiple years; I still change it once a year or so. It's cheap insurance.


Originally Posted by WigglingWaffles (Post 1619409)
Have you checked grocery stores?
it sounds odd, but i've yet to not find a full shelf of t6 at a meijer and its always cheaper than parts stores.

I wish we had Meijer down south! That was great when The Company sent me up north for months on end.


Originally Posted by technicalninja (Post 1619404)
I'd use Mobil1 0w-40 European car formula

Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart - Walmart.com

It's got more ZDDP than normal formula, it's close to the same weight, and it's cheaper than the Rotella.

This is very interesting to me, and likely what I'll go with. Thank you!


Originally Posted by LeoNA (Post 1619415)
Why not use something that is better for the time being until it is back in stock? The T6 is inexpensive which makes it attractive but there are much better products for your application. My suggestion would be Redline 5-40, 10-30 or the M1 0-40.

Because for <1500 non-track miles per year, there's no point to anything more expensive than a local full synthetic.

I remember people complaining about lifter tick after M1 was reformulated, but that was years ago and not the Euro version. I use "normal" M1 in other cars that like it just fine.

LeoNA 03-25-2022 06:02 PM

Castrol makes a 5-40 edge which I have had good results with, but its also hard to find. Any full synthetic gas engine oil will be a better option for your application then the T6. If you want higher amounts of phosphorus you can buy zddp additives.

mr20turbo 03-26-2022 12:47 PM

Just saw all the T6 one would want on the shelves at Sams Club.

engineered2win 03-27-2022 09:10 AM

I switched to Mobil1 0W-40 Euro Formula a couple years ago after seeing it in action. It'll hold up in a GT3 car for the 24 hours of Daytona with ~150C oil temp. And I can buy it at any Autozone. Good enough for me.

bmxfuel007 03-28-2022 03:28 PM

I've been using pennzoil platinum 0w-40 euro. Walmart is always out of stock, BUT my local Oreilly's price matches! I don't think autozone price matches walmart however

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pennzoil-...uart/245761151

TurboTim 03-29-2022 08:20 AM

Good timing on this thread. I haven't changed my oil in...a long time. But only 430 miles ago.


Originally Posted by LeoNA (Post 1619477)
If you want higher amounts of phosphorus you can buy zddp additives.

This. These ZDDP bottles are cheap.

208fabrication 03-30-2022 12:04 AM

Valvoline VR1 high zinc

TurboTim 03-30-2022 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by 208fabrication (Post 1619637)
Valvoline VR1 high zinc

I use that in the Jeep, not the turbo miata. I'm not sure why. Not synthetic I guess.

cabowabo 03-30-2022 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by LeoNA (Post 1619477)
Castrol makes a 5-40 edge which I have had good results with, but its also hard to find. Any full synthetic gas engine oil will be a better option for your application then the T6. If you want higher amounts of phosphorus you can buy zddp additives.

That's what I'm using on low boost racecar, hasn't blown up yet so seems a-ok in my book.


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