Rotella T6 Out of stock everywhere - Now What?
I've used nothing but Rotella T6 5w40 in my MSM for the last 10 years (like many others here), but it's out of stock everywhere around me. The Ford truck people say it's due to supply chain issues with additives. What are all the T6 diehards using right now that you can actually buy locally?
This car has only been driven about 4000 miles in the last 3 years--it's not getting Amsoil/RP/RL or any other mail order exotic oil. |
If you're beating on it at the track then it's worth mail ordering stuff. If you're not, then it doesn't really matter, pretty much any brand-name synthetic of the right viscosity will be fine. Mobil 1 is probably the easy button.
--Ian |
I'd use Mobil1 0w-40 European car formula
Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart - Walmart.com It's got more ZDDP than normal formula, it's close to the same weight, and it's cheaper than the Rotella. |
Have you checked grocery stores?
it sounds odd, but i've yet to not find a full shelf of t6 at a meijer and its always cheaper than parts stores. |
Why not use something that is better for the time being until it is back in stock? The T6 is inexpensive which makes it attractive but there are much better products for your application. My suggestion would be Redline 5-40, 10-30 or the M1 0-40.
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If you barely drive the car, then how can you justify NOT treating it to great oil? The cost is spread across multiple years.
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I have a spare jug of this magical unicorn juice. I'll sell it to you for only 3x what I paid for it because I like you and I'm a good guy. You pay shipping.
In all seriousness, I think T6 is the choice of MT.net not because it's got some magical properties, but because it hit the sweet spot of price, availability, and features. I agree with @codrus : any name-brand full-synthetic will do for your use case, especially if you're doing changes based on the calendar instead of miles. |
Originally Posted by thebeerbaron
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I have a spare jug of this magical unicorn juice. I'll sell it to you for only 3x what I paid for it because I like you and I'm a good guy. You pay shipping.
In all seriousness, I think T6 is the choice of MT.net not because it's got some magical properties, but because it hit the sweet spot of price, availability, and features. I agree with @codrus : any name-brand full-synthetic will do for your use case, especially if you're doing changes based on the calendar instead of miles. Last I checked it was being reformulated again, which could be the disruption. Note any time an oil is "reformulated" it gets worse, complements of the EPA. Try an actual good oil. https://www.amsoil.com/p/premium-pro...?code=AMOQT-EA |
T6 was appealing at one point because the diesel oils kept the high ZDDP levels longer than the gas-engine oils did. That's no longer the case, so it's no longer special. That said, there's nothing wrong with T6 -- I run it in my diesel truck (the intended application) and it works fine.
But again, for street driving it really doesn't matter. Change it regularly and you'll be fine with pretty much any brand-name synthetic. ...I generally stay away from the ones that are sold via Ponzi schemes though. :) --Ian |
Check with a local Dodge dealer. Some of the Cummins engines use T6 so they most likely keep it in stock. I am unsure if any other manufacturers use it but its worth a shot if you cant find it anywhere else.
Plus they may have it in single quart bottles. |
Originally Posted by technicalninja
(Post 1619404)
I'd use Mobil1 0w-40 European car formula
Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart - Walmart.com It's got more ZDDP than normal formula, it's close to the same weight, and it's cheaper than the Rotella. |
Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
(Post 1619418)
If you barely drive the car, then how can you justify NOT treating it to great oil? The cost is spread across multiple years.
Originally Posted by WigglingWaffles
(Post 1619409)
Have you checked grocery stores?
it sounds odd, but i've yet to not find a full shelf of t6 at a meijer and its always cheaper than parts stores.
Originally Posted by technicalninja
(Post 1619404)
I'd use Mobil1 0w-40 European car formula
Mobil 1 FS European Car Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40, 5 Quart - Walmart.com It's got more ZDDP than normal formula, it's close to the same weight, and it's cheaper than the Rotella.
Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1619415)
Why not use something that is better for the time being until it is back in stock? The T6 is inexpensive which makes it attractive but there are much better products for your application. My suggestion would be Redline 5-40, 10-30 or the M1 0-40.
I remember people complaining about lifter tick after M1 was reformulated, but that was years ago and not the Euro version. I use "normal" M1 in other cars that like it just fine. |
Castrol makes a 5-40 edge which I have had good results with, but its also hard to find. Any full synthetic gas engine oil will be a better option for your application then the T6. If you want higher amounts of phosphorus you can buy zddp additives.
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Just saw all the T6 one would want on the shelves at Sams Club.
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I switched to Mobil1 0W-40 Euro Formula a couple years ago after seeing it in action. It'll hold up in a GT3 car for the 24 hours of Daytona with ~150C oil temp. And I can buy it at any Autozone. Good enough for me.
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I've been using pennzoil platinum 0w-40 euro. Walmart is always out of stock, BUT my local Oreilly's price matches! I don't think autozone price matches walmart however
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pennzoil-...uart/245761151 |
Good timing on this thread. I haven't changed my oil in...a long time. But only 430 miles ago.
Originally Posted by LeoNA
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If you want higher amounts of phosphorus you can buy zddp additives.
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Valvoline VR1 high zinc
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
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Valvoline VR1 high zinc
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Originally Posted by LeoNA
(Post 1619477)
Castrol makes a 5-40 edge which I have had good results with, but its also hard to find. Any full synthetic gas engine oil will be a better option for your application then the T6. If you want higher amounts of phosphorus you can buy zddp additives.
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