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Moffitt 07-08-2012 02:20 PM

Single or Dual valve springs for the 1.8 BP??
 
I'm in the process of searching for what valvetrain components I want to use, and I have a simple question.

Single or Dual valve springs? This is for a boost application with a goal of 350whp

Also...are the BPs Interference engines?

BogusSVO 07-08-2012 05:04 PM

Seems thee hot set up is dual springs.

Spring pressure needs to be set for the cams tho.

hustler 07-08-2012 05:13 PM

I went with a slightly stiffer single Supertech spring that I got from 949 just in case I over-rev, since I was rebuilding a head.

wittyworks 07-08-2012 05:26 PM

Let me google that for you

Moffitt 07-08-2012 05:57 PM

I will start with the stock cams, but I intend to upgrade to bigger cams. So for a dual spring I assume would cause more pressure and wear with the stock cam application?

And 949 so far does seem to have the cheapest single springs for supertech

4frnt 07-08-2012 06:50 PM

Double or single springs don't mean ----. It's all about spring tension at seat and fully open, material and shape, coil bind height. Those will differ depending on what you want.

Leafy 07-08-2012 09:04 PM

I like double springs for 2 reason. You have a small safety net if one fails (not as important in our cars since they are not interference without some meaty pistons and/or cams), and they help cancel out harmonics that can cause valve float, because you can float the valves before the spring is actually insufficient if you hit a harmonic.

Of course you can get the second effect with less weight if you use bee hive springs or conical springs and those have the advantage of being lighter than a dual setup and also allowing more lift since they coil bind at a lower height than straight springs.

hustler 07-08-2012 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 900661)
I like double springs for 2 reason. You have a small safety net if one fails (not as important in our cars since they are not interference without some meaty pistons and/or cams),

Our engines are so incredibly "non-interference" that I bent all of my intake valves and never knew it.

Moffitt 07-08-2012 10:37 PM

This is the set I'm currently looking at.

Supertech SPRK-1012-M18D Dual Valve Springs Kit Miata BP 164 lbs

Im just having trouble now deciding how stiff I want them.

Too stiff?

Leafy 07-09-2012 06:51 AM

You can calculate how stiff you need them to be based off your cam profile and your valve train weights. I dont know any real rules of thumbs for it though besides actually doing the math out, or putting it in this program called dynacam.


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