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aidandj 06-15-2017 01:59 AM

Skunk2 Intake Manifold...Not vaporware anymore?!?!
 
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10hp/11tq gain on a rotrex'd BP05 is kind of a bummer.

The fact that its a BP05 manifold is kind of a bummer. Hopefully they'll make others.

mmmjesse 06-15-2017 08:48 AM

we already have a good manifold option out there for the BP4W. gordeev makes the honda intake manifold kit for it and then you always have the flat top.

aidandj 06-15-2017 09:01 AM

Honda is welded flat top is meh.

concealer404 06-15-2017 09:17 AM

Comes free with Jackson Racing Rotrex kit. Has a 50% off Tecnas coupon in the throttle body.

Efini~FC3S 06-15-2017 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1421936)
Comes free with Jackson Racing Rotrex kit. Has a 50% off Tecnas coupon in the throttle body.


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shuiend 06-15-2017 10:04 AM

I mean its not like its been known that designing a good intake manifold for the BP that actually works well on a stock motor is next to impossible. Corky Bell has said for years that unless you have a built motor and over 300whp, its hard to build something better then 99/00/flattop.

huesmann 06-15-2017 03:21 PM

It's not like Mazda didn't pay its engineers!

shlammed 06-15-2017 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1421945)
I mean its not like its been known that designing a good intake manifold for the BP that actually works well on a stock motor is next to impossible. Corky Bell has said for years that unless you have a built motor and over 300whp, its hard to build something better then 99/00/flattop.

it depends.
I built a sheet metal intake manifold that I designed for a flat torque curve from 3000-8500. if your not just cruising around, the manifold would do a real good job.

AlwaysBroken 06-16-2017 12:06 PM

10hp gains (under boost, no less) over the stock 94-97 manifold? Isn't everyone who cares enough to buy this already running a 99+ head?

18psi 06-16-2017 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1421945)
I mean its not like its been known that designing a good intake manifold for the BP that actually works well on a stock motor is next to impossible. Corky Bell has said for years that unless you have a built motor and over 300whp, its hard to build something better then 99/00/flattop.

corky bell just learned a few months ago what a flat top even is.

concealer404 06-16-2017 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken (Post 1422182)
10hp gains (under boost, no less) over the stock 94-97 manifold? Isn't everyone who cares enough to buy this already running a 99+ head?

Warning: Unpopular opinion ahead!

Purposes of a mostly street car, i don't care what head is on the car when it comes to forced induction. Want more power? Run more boost. In the context of an off the shelf rotrex running off the shelf bandaids and the kit as-delivered, i'm not going to care or want to go through the trouble of a head swap, but i WOULD maybe bolt on an easy 10hp/10ftlbs for a few hundo and 2 hours of my time.

I'm waiting to see what this does on an n/a NBs. I'd like to see it on a mostly stock motor, and a race grenade motor.

concealer404 06-16-2017 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1422184)
corky bell just learned a few months ago what a flat top even is.

And then it promptly disappeared into a late morning tequila haze.

Braineack 06-16-2017 01:02 PM

the problem with testing on a rotrex, is we have no clue what the mid-range gains will be :P

18psi 06-16-2017 01:06 PM

back to stock midrange....so the gains are UUUGE

Savington 06-16-2017 02:35 PM

Nothing epitomizes Skunk2 like spending years of time and thousands of dollars developing an intake manifold for the wrong cylinder head

18psi 06-16-2017 02:41 PM

RIGHT??!! :laugh:

And by developing it, you mean just another egay knockoff with re-designed mounting points.

Savington 06-16-2017 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1422185)
i'm not going to care or want to go through the trouble of a head swap, but i WOULD maybe bolt on an easy 10hp/10ftlbs for a few hundo and 2 hours of my time.

Do you know what's even easier and cheaper than an intake manifold swap if you just want another 10whp on your '94 head? I know a guy who has a pretty good idea of what might be easier:


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1422185)
Want more power? Run more boost.


AlwaysBroken 06-16-2017 04:47 PM

I was going to say, if you think the bang/buck of this intake manifold kicks the ass of a head swap, wait till you see the bang/buck of a pulley swap.

aidandj 06-16-2017 04:48 PM

Or an EBC....5psi-30psi with the turn of a knob.

AlwaysBroken 06-16-2017 04:49 PM

I thought this was being sold as an option for a supercharger kit.

Twibs415 06-16-2017 10:26 PM

If they were smart, they would build us a manifold like the b18 but with smaller runner diameter. But who spends time/money on the dyno? On Ig, Skunk2 reported gains while the car the went rich. while they probably just got mixed up with lean and rich its still not a good sign.

concealer404 06-19-2017 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken (Post 1422257)
I was going to say, if you think the bang/buck of this intake manifold kicks the ass of a head swap, wait till you see the bang/buck of a pulley swap.

Like.... you're talking about lightweight alternator and water pump pullies, right?

aidandj 06-19-2017 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1422577)
Like.... you're talking about lightweight alternator and water pump pullies, right?

Lightweight crank pulley is where it's at

concealer404 06-19-2017 08:55 AM

I will search Ebay now, thanks!

mmmjesse 06-19-2017 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1422577)
Like.... you're talking about lightweight alternator and water pump pullies, right?

He is talking about pulley swap for the brotrex that was on the test car.

18psi 06-19-2017 10:42 AM

he's talking about a tranny swap banging and bucking

concealer404 06-19-2017 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by mmmjesse (Post 1422584)
He is talking about pulley swap for the brotrex that was on the test car.

That sounds like a lot of work. I'd rather swap an intake manifold on a BP05.

Savington 06-19-2017 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1422185)
I'm waiting to see what this does on an n/a NBs. I'd like to see it on a mostly stock motor, and a race grenade motor.

You may have to wait a while, since this intake manifold won't fit any BP4W or BP6D cylinder head.

concealer404 06-19-2017 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1422654)
You may have to wait a while, since this intake manifold won't fit any BP4W or BP6D cylinder head.

Well, logically speaking if there's a BP05 variant, a 4W/6D variant should be in the works.

BUT, this IS Junk2 we're talking about.

18psi 06-19-2017 03:12 PM

it will be ready........tomorrow

concealer404 06-19-2017 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1422662)
it will be ready........tomorrow

Probably not. It's race season, don't you know?

18psi 06-19-2017 04:08 PM

skunks be stankin up the track

mmmjesse 06-19-2017 04:43 PM

i saw 2 dead skunks this morning on the way to work in my miata with CCNC honda intake manifold.

nbfather 10-21-2017 08:34 PM

Greg just did a video on one of these....
I looked up the specs and the runners are 10 inches long. How does that compare to the square top?.
I see they have provided dual mounting points to the head? High and low.....What is that for?
Raising the cylinder port?

sixshooter 10-21-2017 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by nbfather (Post 1447061)
Greg just did a video on one of these....
I looked up the specs and the runners are 10 inches long. How does that compare to the square top?.
I see they have provided dual mounting points to the head? High and low.....What is that for?
Raising the cylinder port?

NA/NB Heads.

LukeG 10-21-2017 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by nbfather (Post 1447061)
Greg just did a video on one of these....
I looked up the specs and the runners are 10 inches long. How does that compare to the square top?.
I see they have provided dual mounting points to the head? High and low.....What is that for?
Raising the cylinder port?

Mentions video and didn't even watch it. He explains in the video.

nbfather 10-22-2017 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1447067)
NA/NB Heads.

Yet to own an NA...Thanks!

nbfather 10-22-2017 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1447068)
Mentions video and didn't even watch it. He explains in the video.

Greg said it fits the NA and NB.
Since I have only every owned 2 NBs.......I wouldn't know what a useless NA head looked like if it hit you square in the face.
All I know is the POS costs you hp.....and the car has funny lights.

AlwaysBroken 10-22-2017 10:05 PM

I know that it takes less time to raise boost by one psi than to install this, but does anyone have dyno numbers?


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