no shit a bad ground hurts alot of things. Could of fouled me that it is common knowledge by some members saying ground wires are for ricers.
I wouldn't go drop that kind of money on ground wires anyway. I have spools of different gauge wire laying around here so I figured I would try and be pro-active.

You asked "so has anybody messed with ground wire KITS?"

We said no...kits are for ricers...build your own damn shit.

Now you tell us you're building your own damn shit, and we are stupid.

What are you getting at here?

I just wonder how these kits "improve power" There must be some REALLY funky grounding problems on your vehicle to mess with your ignition system/fuel injection system enough that power goes up when you attach some wires to the block.

Damn, I need more ground wires. Hey, maybe some ground wire kit stickers! Yeah, that would do it!

Travis, you should stop wasting your time designing products and just start selling stickers. Hire a high school intern to do the graphics work and plot out vinyl. That would be the ticket!:laugh:

A floating ground is a bad thing and as often as I hear posts about ECU inputs being dirty it certainly could provide some benefits. Grounding is good.

Its a serious art trying to figure that out though. There is one model year that if you cut the ground to the manifold it clears the signal up!!

Around these parts higher than a 4th grade education is expected. So can you please re-type that so it makes sense? thanks!

Lol at a web search for ground wire kits. 1st hit:

"Well I just bought a ground wiring kit for my Civic and I have no clue ... "

Anyone know where to get an Ilovetacotaco racing sticker?