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Arca_ex Apr 6, 2017 01:39 PM

Start with this article then check out the rest of the library as well
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If you think it's "the same" then you are either retarded or willfully ignorant.

The Same as Injector Dynamics but Cheaper - Injector Dynamics

18psi Apr 6, 2017 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by irodd (Post 1404072)
Moral is very dependable thing.
Millionaire think about his money, billionaire think about his soul.
OP is on a budget as he is buying used stuff.

And technically it is the same injector.

I'm sorry, but 99% of us would disagree with you.

I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if someone undercut all your prices and took all your customers by stealing all the research and development you've done over the years, putting out a product inferior to yours while claiming to be on par with, if not superior, all the while blatantly ripping off even your very own documents for said product.

There's a huge difference between competition, and theft.

irodd Apr 6, 2017 03:55 PM

Let's do not start holy war and move moral related discussion to the appropriate part of the forum.
and leave here technical questions only.

Everyone who is inside the injector/engine tuning/etc. business clearly knows how to make 725cc, I000 and ID2000.
FIC900, DW1000, thousand companies around the world use same core to make 1000cc injector.
You can use their data or data from another company.

slowcarfast Apr 6, 2017 04:04 PM

This thread has gotten a little off track, but I think it needs to be stated that there is a difference between Fuel Injector Connection and Fuel Injector Clinic. Fuel Injector Connection is the company addressed in the Injector Dynamics article linked which calls them out for stealing data and marketing materials, copycat design, etc. Fuel Injector Clinic is a different company and some searching shows they spent some time refuting/clarifying in various places that they had no link to other companies shown to be engaging in unethical practices. Fuel Injector Clinic does not provide standard offset and flow data tables, and instead provides this data specific to each individually serial numbered injector they sell (for injectors 1000cc and up, see their website info on Data Match Technology). I am not trying to argue the relative value of Fuel Injector Clinic and Injector Dynamics products, but to clarify that I have seen no evidence that the negative things said in this thread are in any way connected to Fuel Injector Clinic.

Savington Apr 6, 2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by irodd (Post 1404132)
You can use their data or data from another company.

lol no

Arca_ex Apr 6, 2017 06:38 PM

Fuel Injector Clinic works with ASNU don't they? There's articles on that too lmao.

irodd Apr 6, 2017 07:59 PM

Everyone can send different brand injectors for comparison test to any injector service company.
I did this test many times for my clients.

if someone is really interested for comparison test you can send me ID1000, DW1000, FIC900, etc. Fuel rail accepts 8 injectors at once.
and I always have generic Bosch EV14 1000cc in stock .
I can record video or make live stream from test on YouTube.

slowcarfast Apr 7, 2017 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1404175)
Fuel Injector Clinic works with ASNU don't they? There's articles on that too lmao.

Fuel injector clinic does have some products using ASNU technology in some of their injectors. The criticism of ASNU was a bit different, and from what I read it would not seem to reflect poorly on fuel injector clinic for them to have worked with them. Listen, bottom line, I have no affiliation with any of these companies, and I'm not trying to justify my purchase or something. But one of the hallmarks of this forum, one of the things that makes it great, is that we rely on data, facts, verifiable information, and we should apply that same standard when considering the various companies we buy from and products we buy.

Additionally, injectors are installed, my first E85 fill up is in the tank, no fires to report as yet. I'm all good!


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