If you had to pull the engine, what would you do?
02-25-2015, 06:47 PM
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If you had to pull the engine, what would you do?
2004 MSM, 157k on the motor.
Pulling the engine for a leaking oil pan. Cam seals leaking, too. So going to do a full timing change, etc., the oil pan seal, fix the leaking knock sensor on the tranny and check the clutch. Likely have a proper catch-can installed, too.
The goal is to run the stock turbo with aftermarket goodies (FMIC, down pipe, intake) at 10psi and put it on the track a couple times a year with a Rev. build MS2 but mostly it will daily drive.
Just wondering if there are other major things that are worth considering if the engine is out (I think I can leave internals alone). I am not performing the work.
Thanks.
Crap. What I should add that I already have:
DP
FMIC
Roll bar, Blackbird (race seats/5-spt that bolt/swap in for OE seats)
Intake and TB hose (including new BPV)
Rev. built MS2 (waiting to fix leaks before tuning) so that also means a wideband
Wheels/tires (need alignment)
Brake are fine (i think)
all other fluids, etc. take care of (other than what has leaked out) including new fuel filter
plugs/wires
No CELs! hurrah!
Pulling the engine for a leaking oil pan. Cam seals leaking, too. So going to do a full timing change, etc., the oil pan seal, fix the leaking knock sensor on the tranny and check the clutch. Likely have a proper catch-can installed, too.
The goal is to run the stock turbo with aftermarket goodies (FMIC, down pipe, intake) at 10psi and put it on the track a couple times a year with a Rev. build MS2 but mostly it will daily drive.
Just wondering if there are other major things that are worth considering if the engine is out (I think I can leave internals alone). I am not performing the work.
Thanks.
Crap. What I should add that I already have:
DP
FMIC
Roll bar, Blackbird (race seats/5-spt that bolt/swap in for OE seats)
Intake and TB hose (including new BPV)
Rev. built MS2 (waiting to fix leaks before tuning) so that also means a wideband
Wheels/tires (need alignment)
Brake are fine (i think)
all other fluids, etc. take care of (other than what has leaked out) including new fuel filter
plugs/wires
No CELs! hurrah!
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02-25-2015, 06:58 PM
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2004 MSM, 157k on the motor.
Pulling the engine for a leaking oil pan. Cam seals leaking, too. So going to do a full timing change, etc., the oil pan seal, fix the leaking knock sensor on the tranny and check the clutch. Likely have a proper catch-can installed, too.
The goal is to run the stock turbo with aftermarket goodies (FMIC, down pipe, intake) at 10psi and put it on the track a couple times a year with a Rev. build MS2 but mostly it will daily drive.
Just wondering if there are other major things that are worth considering if the engine is out (I think I can leave internals alone). I am not performing the work.
Thanks.
Pulling the engine for a leaking oil pan. Cam seals leaking, too. So going to do a full timing change, etc., the oil pan seal, fix the leaking knock sensor on the tranny and check the clutch. Likely have a proper catch-can installed, too.
The goal is to run the stock turbo with aftermarket goodies (FMIC, down pipe, intake) at 10psi and put it on the track a couple times a year with a Rev. build MS2 but mostly it will daily drive.
Just wondering if there are other major things that are worth considering if the engine is out (I think I can leave internals alone). I am not performing the work.
Thanks.
2. Resurface flywheel
3. Main seals
4. I'd strongly consider the MSPNP Pro; https://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/...ata-p-583.html
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02-25-2015, 07:44 PM
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I think the tranny is staying put but i'll keep an eye on the that, thanks.
1. FM1 Clutch
2. Resurface flywheel
3. Main seals
4. I'd strongly consider the MSPNP Pro; https://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/...ata-p-583.html
2. Resurface flywheel
3. Main seals
4. I'd strongly consider the MSPNP Pro; https://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/...ata-p-583.html
I need to research more on the OE vs. aftermarket flywheels I guess so thanks for the idea.
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02-25-2015, 07:47 PM
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yes, sorry I was not more specific about the timing change I think of the water pump as part of that. and not a crappy stamped water pump, either.
I think the tranny is staying put but i'll keep an eye on the that, thanks.
I updated my first post too late, so yes the MS2 will do wonders for the MSM. I can't wait to tune it.
I need to research more on the OE vs. aftermarket flywheels I guess so thanks for the idea.
I think the tranny is staying put but i'll keep an eye on the that, thanks.
I updated my first post too late, so yes the MS2 will do wonders for the MSM. I can't wait to tune it.
I need to research more on the OE vs. aftermarket flywheels I guess so thanks for the idea.
You mentioned MS2 based.
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02-26-2015, 04:06 PM
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Well, time, too. I would love to learn how to pull my own engine but there is a baby due in three weeks and so if I pull it, it will likely stay pulled for some time...and part of my wife's post-birth recovery will be going for drop-top drives in the spring air.
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02-27-2015, 12:15 AM
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This.
This too.
The tranny has to come out to pull the oil pan, so replace the input and output seals on the transmission. Also, insist that AR uses OEM seals EVERYWHERE. Their WorldPac source paper seals are incredibly low quality and like to leak.
Even at 157k, his NB's engine bay is at max 10 years old (yikes!), and is probably in find shape. The more important step is to properly scrub and rinse the factory paint, it'll clean up just fine.
MSM radiator is the best OE radiator you can have, so you're starting off good. Also, keep in mind reroutes are not EGR capable, so prepare to get rid of the rest of emissions when you do go with one.
To clarify these statements, your 6-speed has a reverse switch and neutral switch, but no knock sensor.
This for sure. Your MS2 will sell easily if it's MSM specific. Save some money and buy the Pro, along with Singular's ECU bracket. It can do so much more, much faster, in a smaller case, and has a lot more options. Although your MS2E is quite capable. I look forward to tuning which ever one you choose.
1. FM1 Clutch
2. Resurface flywheel
3. Main seals
4. I'd strongly consider the MSPNP Pro; https://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/...ata-p-583.html
2. Resurface flywheel
3. Main seals
4. I'd strongly consider the MSPNP Pro; https://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/...ata-p-583.html
To clarify these statements, your 6-speed has a reverse switch and neutral switch, but no knock sensor.
This for sure. Your MS2 will sell easily if it's MSM specific. Save some money and buy the Pro, along with Singular's ECU bracket. It can do so much more, much faster, in a smaller case, and has a lot more options. Although your MS2E is quite capable. I look forward to tuning which ever one you choose.
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