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Lol256 05-14-2018 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1482079)
why do all your posts read like spam emails?

sorry about that
spammers are foreigners...you got your answer?:winner:

sixshooter 05-14-2018 04:23 PM

English is his second language. Or perhaps third.

I wish I could help. I've got nothing.

Braineack 05-15-2018 08:37 AM

I'm assuming the TDR box failed and it's no longer adding fuel and it's going majorly lean.

or this botched injector install that involved the idle valve for some reason is a culprit:


idle valve is recirculated via a check valve to prevent leaks...

...i found out that the seal of the idle valvle on the intake manifold wasn t good (my mistske it was during the change of the injectors) i also find out that the silicone hose of the integrated wastegate was damaged.
:confused: :confused: :confused:

still trying to figure out what an idle valve was removed from the TB to install injectors.


Pictures of this idle valve, and the rest of the engine bay please.

Does this car have aftermarket FPR?



Dear Europeans:

The universal law of cause and effect states that for every effect there is a definite cause, likewise for every cause, there is a definite effect.


cause: change of the injectors.

effect: the other big problem is that my afr at idle is at 14.7 (like before) for a few second and then it slowly decrease to 10-11
what injectors did you install? and why?

Lol256 05-15-2018 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1482226)
I'm assuming the TDR box failed and it's no longer adding fuel and it's going majorly lean.

or this botched injector install that involved the idle valve for some reason is a culprit:



:confused: :confused: :confused:

still trying to figure out what an idle valve was removed from the TB to install injectors.


Pictures of this idle valve, and the rest of the engine bay please.

Does this car have aftermarket FPR?



Dear Europeans:

The universal law of cause and effect states that for every effect there is a definite cause, likewise for every cause, there is a definite effect.



what injectors did you install? and why?

For the tdr card i m not lean but rich (iddle only)... but i already remove it and it changed nothing to my iddle problems...

I have smalls red rx7 injectors (was iddling perfectly for 5'000miles and many others use it with vodoo box or tdr without problems).

I dont have a fpr (new fuel filter only) but again (tell me if i m wrong) if my problems where linked to the lack of a fpr i'll have suffer from it for long ago...

hopefully i'm not european! But i ll tell them!

Lol256 05-15-2018 12:49 PM

So I changed my plug wires, wires, checked for vacuum leaks, checked maf, checked turbo on both side, checked cat (removed totally).

Please tell me if my last suspects are worst to change:
- egr valve (could lead to rough idle but with lean condition in my understandment)
- ignition coils
- ect sensor (what about this??)
-idle valve stick closed(a bad one could cause rich idle, but could it explain the blockage in rpm?l

I'll love to have your other idea too...i m totally lost.

18psi 05-15-2018 01:07 PM

maybe check your rear tires. or your headlights.

Lol256 05-15-2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1482324)
maybe check your rear tires. or your headlights.

already done...love your irony...so funny

Braineack 05-15-2018 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Lol256 (Post 1482305)
For the tdr card i m not lean but rich (iddle only)... but i already remove it and it changed nothing to my iddle problems...

I have smalls red rx7 injectors (was iddling perfectly for 5'000miles and many others use it with vodoo box or tdr without problems).

your ECU + TDR combo is not equipped to handle the 460xx injectors. you're basically flooding the motor to where it can not longer combust under load or stay stoich at idle.

18psi 05-15-2018 02:50 PM

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM BRO.
LOTS OF CARS WITH A DIFFERENT PIGGYBACK ARE RUNNING FINE!!

lol

Braineack 05-15-2018 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1482355)
THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM BRO.
LOTS OF CARS WITH A DIFFERENT PIGGYBACK ARE RUNNING FINE!!

lol

PM vlad for tuning.

18psi 05-15-2018 03:08 PM

:bowrofl:

Lol256 05-17-2018 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1482351)
your ECU + TDR combo is not equipped to handle the 460xx injectors. you're basically flooding the motor to where it can not longer combust under load or stay stoich at idle.

ok i dont have 490cc but 290 secondary rx7 reds...they use it for tdr compressor with stock ecu, they also specified that they are perfect for stock ecu in many other place. They also iddled at 14.7 for two month...

Lol256 05-17-2018 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1482362)
:bowrofl:

I told you that s not a choice (i have 10years of programming behind me so this part wasnt the most difficult for me). I spent ALL my free time to learn from 0: reading, thinking, doing stuff that are at the opposite of my curriculum. I do it because i love this car more than everything and i would sleep one hour a night to get it work again. I not a mecanic, it s passional, i dont have 1% of your knowledge but i think i deserve to be not publiquly humiliated each time i talk. This knowledge i m sure could solve my problem if you use it this way.
thanks

Lol256 05-17-2018 03:51 AM

To add my new tests:

- when i disconnect the idlle valve (iscv) connector, the iddle still start at 14.7 and then go down rich (no changes)

-if i create a vacuum leak post throttle body the idl get back to 14.7 and is then perfection (maybe it could help for diagnogstic)

sixshooter 05-17-2018 07:27 AM

Is your idle valve stuck or does it move freely?

Braineack 05-17-2018 09:14 AM

does your TDR device thing have a vacuum line going to it? is the vacuum line on the FPR still connected/good?

your AFR mixture is obviously off. Both tests above increase the amount of air in the mixture. However, both should also significantly raise the idle speed.

Lol256 05-17-2018 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1482721)
Is your idle valve stuck or does it move freely?

for iac valve i just inspected it nothing more...for iscv i just removed the connector to see if i get a difference (that wasn t the case!). I have the 14.7 and then drop rich in cold and hot condition (maybe that put out of cause the iac). Do you think i can get a sure way to test if it open freely?

Lol256 05-17-2018 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1482729)
does your TDR device thing have a vacuum line going to it? is the vacuum line on the FPR still connected/good?

your AFR mixture is obviously off. Both tests above increase the amount of air in the mixture. However, both should also significantly raise the idle speed.

thx for your help!

yes it have on and its connected perfectly...:noes:

so if i go further both my tests weren t explaining anything?

Braineack 05-17-2018 10:02 AM

disconnect the vacuum line on your FPR -- check if there's fuel in it.

Lol256 05-17-2018 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1482741)
disconnect the vacuum line on your FPR -- check if there's fuel in it.

I tried it when checking for vacuum leaks...the is no fuel at all in there...
thx again!


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