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Halcyon 01-09-2010 07:08 PM

Supertech Pistons + Rings = $370.88 = Good Deal?
 
Looking around online looks like a company called Speed agency is selling each piston for $76.71 and rings for $16.01. Total cost would be $370.88. That's almost $70 less than most places. Anyone had any experience with them?

chriscar 01-09-2010 07:29 PM

This is not a classified ad - moved.

C

Halcyon 01-10-2010 03:01 AM

I hate it when I do that.

JasonC SBB 01-11-2010 03:23 PM

I called these guys, they still have the GB price here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t37356/#post433338

flier129 01-11-2010 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 506826)
I called these guys, they still have the GB price here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t37356/#post433338


No shit? Might have to jump on that!

JasonC SBB 01-11-2010 04:54 PM

Supertech is near me in San Jose BTW.
I'm trying to convince the No Limit guys (in NY) to convince Supertech to drop ship em to me. Waiting 2 weeks to ship to NY then back to CA is silly.

You may want to tell em the same thing.

BTW I want the 83.5mm 8.6:1 pistons.

JasonC SBB 01-11-2010 05:02 PM

I called Supertech and for $20 more I have the privilege of driving over and picking up the pistons directly LOL.

flier129 01-11-2010 05:07 PM

Lol, ouch.

I'm not in much of a hurry so it doesn't bother me.

Halcyon 01-11-2010 11:58 PM

That's awesome. What's the number for Supertech?
Where are you located JasonC?
I'm looking for 84mm 8.6:1 pistons.

And the group buy for m-tuned rods is still good.
That's less than $700 for new rods and pistons.

JasonC SBB 01-12-2010 12:16 AM

<checks dialed numbers> 408 448 2001

I live about 5 miles from them lol.

I thought you could only get 8.6:1 in 83.5 mm.

Halcyon 01-12-2010 02:07 AM

check out part number P4-MA84-N4 (from speed agency website)

Info from website:

Bore 84.00mm
Comp Height 1.201" (30.5mm)
Comp Ratio 8.6:1
Dome/Dish Vol -4cc
Gram Weight 296g
Head CCs 50
Oversized 1mm+
Pin Dia 20mm (.787")
Skirt Round
Notes Piston
For Turbo/Nitrous Applications
For use with Piston Ring GNH8400
Vehicle Notes Gasket + Deck Height: 0.060"

P4-MA84-CR9 is from belfabs website showing 9.0:1 which is not much of a difference.

I figured 1mm over shouldn't make the walls too thin.

railz 01-12-2010 03:56 AM

whoo! just in time, im about ready to order new pistons.

should i just order from that dealers GB thread?

1.6 please

Halcyon 01-12-2010 05:21 AM

Depends how soon you wanna get your pistons.
You live in 408 so it's convenient for you either way.
I live in 415 so it's about 45 mins each way for me. So I'm kinda leaning towards the group buy shipped. Don't think the machine shop even started on my block yet anyway.

gospeed81 01-12-2010 07:47 AM

wow...didn't know those prices were still good...may be building a motor sooner than I thought.

JasonC SBB 01-12-2010 11:48 AM

9.0 vs 8.6 is a pretty significant difference in terms of detonation resistance.
On 91 CA craptane I'd go with 8.6 for a turbo app. Much more forgiving.

If we get em from the GB folks in NY we should convince em to get Supertech to drop ship em to us in CA to so it'll take 1-2 days instead of 2 weeks.

railz
call up Supertech and check if the pistons you want are in stock.
If we both show up at the same time with cash in hand they oughtta match the group buy price (which is only $20 lower).

shuiend 01-12-2010 11:55 AM

If you show up in person to pick up the pistons would you have to pay sales tax?

JasonC SBB 01-12-2010 12:06 PM

I asked on the phone and they kinda said no.
Either that or the +$20 price includes it.
They're 5 miles away so it's worth a try for me lol.

JasonC SBB 01-12-2010 01:28 PM

railz if you wanna go to Supertech, call me four six six nine three nine nine.

railz 01-12-2010 01:31 PM

ring ring ;D

wait, your phones off =(

Halcyon 01-12-2010 02:40 PM

Just ordered the M-tuned rods and Supertech pistons. $310 and $368.40 shipped. $678.40 for the combo. Some people try to sell their used parts for that price.

It's $10 more to have them drop ship from supertech, but it takes them a few days to ship. He said it's only a few days difference and I'm in no hurry so I'll save the $10 for a double cheese burger n large fries from McDonalds. :giggle:

Halcyon 01-12-2010 02:43 PM

BTW, I got the 84mm in 8.6:1

railz 01-12-2010 06:59 PM

Jason and I just returned from picking up our set of pistons from supertech directly. It was just a little extra but worth not going through the headache of shipping and possible errors in the piston size.

There front office displays are sick!

gospeed81 01-12-2010 09:10 PM

Anybody know why the part number for 79mm low and high compression pistons is the same?

Halcyon 01-13-2010 01:12 AM

Good to hear you both got the pistons in hand.
Know any place in the bay area that's good at tuning miatas?

Halcyon 01-13-2010 01:18 AM

gospeed81: The numbers are similar but not the same.

railz 01-13-2010 02:50 AM

Halcyon, if your willing to drive a little to the south there are some really good tuning shops in hayward

thesnowboarder 01-13-2010 03:05 AM

Halcyon, Trackspeed Engineering tunes megasquirts.

Halcyon 01-13-2010 01:15 PM

I'll be using a e-manage blue.
I'll be willing to travel a little if they can tune it right.
Been looking for one close by but no one in the city seems to dynotune.

JasonC SBB 01-13-2010 09:27 PM

Halcyon if you spent all that money on pistons I'd spend more on an Adaptronic or a MS.

Faeflora 01-13-2010 09:52 PM

If you guys go over to Supertech ask them about the design of the piston face-- where the material is thin and dies (after detonation and piston melting). I talked with some guy there-- he sounded ethnic european.

Halcyon 01-13-2010 10:53 PM

I already have a emb still in it's plastic bag. I was going to use it w my pnp 99 head w/jrsc. But that blew up before I had a chance to install it. I'll probably upgrade to megasquirt when I decide to go turbo. But for now I'm trying to go low budget. My other projects might get jealous if I spend too much at once. Lol.

Halcyon 01-15-2010 01:08 AM

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Got my pistons today!
That was quick. A lot smaller box than I expected.

Attachment 201220

JasonC SBB 01-15-2010 03:14 AM

I guess they drop shipped.

I got the same ones.

Anyone have the weights of the stockers handy?

Halcyon 01-21-2010 03:14 AM

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Rods are finally here and they look great!!

Attachment 201055

gospeed81 01-21-2010 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 507624)
gospeed81: The numbers are similar but not the same.

Not on the bitmap posted here:

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t37356/#post433338

Which shows P4-MA790-N10 for both (with nearly 2 points of compression ratio difference!).

I want to say this number is correct for the lower compression, and that the high compression pistons are just N1 at the end, but can't find anything with a websearch off the bat.

I'll have to call.


I DID just find some 8.5:1 compression pistons though...just need to check availability.

gospeed81 01-21-2010 08:04 AM

holy double postage batman

Halcyon 01-21-2010 03:39 PM

n1 is 10.6:1
n10 is 8.8:1

just off this site i googled: Supertech Pistons - THMotorsports - Lowest Price Parts HKS Exhaust Apexi World Sport Koni Seibon Carbon Fiber ACT Exedy Clutch Skunk2

gospeed81 01-21-2010 03:41 PM

Talked to Adam at nolimitmotorsports...

Supertech DOES have the 8.5:1 78.5mm(1.6L +0.5) in stock.

$380 shipped with rings.

aznDragonX 01-31-2010 04:05 PM

now..I'll be set if I can find a place that sell Supertech valve spring kit for good price.

JasonC SBB: are you going to have Steve Cardelli to build your motor? Looks like we have the same parts according to your post.

- Jason

JasonC SBB 01-31-2010 10:24 PM

Cardelli is a good 45 minute drive away for me.
I took my stuff to Victory Machine in SJ which is 10 minutes away. Pricier, popular with the local V8 crowd, but convenient.


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