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Old 03-19-2014, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blaen99
Sounds good. No problem getting it back to you whatsoever, but be sure to pack them well Pinky!
Oh, I'm already working on the box.... ;^)
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Got bad news from TSE, bros.

Engine should be to me by the first or second week of April. That delays my build plans by 4 weeks.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
I'd like to get a VTCS and a Flat Top manifold confirmed for this if I can find people willing to contribute for comparison's sake.
My flat top will be there! Once it gets here (hasn't arrived yet, should be here early next week).
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Originally Posted by y8s
what if you replace the plenum with an MP62 and the short runners with a TRUBOCHORGER.
I know you were being sarcastic but...wonder if we could adapt a TB to Tom's FFS intake manifold? It would be completely different than any of the other ones, ultra short runners.



Then, just to be complete, someone should also buy one of BEGi's IM's:

Mazda Miata Intake Manifold 1999-2005
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TB?
is the mammoth 70mm that's on there already not high flowing enough?
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Originally Posted by canyonarrow
My flat top will be there! Once it gets here (hasn't arrived yet, should be here early next week).
Awesome.

We'll revisit this ASAP if TSE makes their quoted delivery date. I'm arranging for time off so I can speed up the build.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
Awesome.

We'll revisit this ASAP if TSE makes their quoted delivery date. I'm arranging for time off so I can speed up the build.
Can you weigh them all too? I'm curious how much the extra runners, VICS gear, etc. weigh vs. the squaretop.

I know it doesn't really matter but I'm curious in the event that I decide to return to N/A with the squaretop. If I do go N/A, I'll be trying to trim weight wherever I can.

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TB?
is the mammoth 70mm that's on there already not high flowing enough?
No; the 70mm is feeding a supercharger. I meant pull off the SC and make an adapter so you can put a TB directly on the FFS manifold, and see how well it works with teh trubo.
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I can tell you right now and save you the money and time: it would be terrible. even worse than the stock intake manifold. Less plenum volume AND completely eliminated runners, AND no flow. Literally the worst of all scenarios.

also the flattop weighs almost the same as the stocker. very little weight difference.
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Originally Posted by canyonarrow
Then, just to be complete, someone should also buy one of BEGi's IM's:

Mazda Miata Intake Manifold 1999-2005
I offered up my cast Begi IM to Blean for testing. He has decided against it for a few reasons. The two big ones are TPS would have to be changed, and IC piping would have to change. So it is more then he wants to do between dyno runs and such.
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at least with some of the testing, all that might be required is changing the upper.
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I don't mind changing the IM completely (I.e. squaretop or VTCS), but if there is electrical components involved that require substantial changing (I.e. a completely different TPS or throttle body), it substantially complicates things unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
I don't mind changing the IM completely (I.e. squaretop or VTCS), but if there is electrical components involved that require substantial changing (I.e. a completely different TPS or throttle body), it substantially complicates things unfortunately.
What are you going to use for a throttle body?

Vlad RTV'd the **** out of the TB flange on his flat top, so I don't think it's coming off. Ever. But if a stock NB TB will throw off the test, I'll keep working on it.
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Originally Posted by canyonarrow
What are you going to use for a throttle body?

Vlad RTV'd the **** out of the TB flange on his flat top, so I don't think it's coming off. Ever. But if a stock NB TB will throw off the test, I'll keep working on it.
Stock NB TPS is what I'm looking for.
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Subd for empirical research. Liking the VICS switchable idea.
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The Modified VICS manifold went out today- Holy **** Son, do you live in the boonies or what?!? It cost a goddamned fortune to ship it! All in the name of research I suppose.

Enjoy the packaging….
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Sub'd for packaging pics.
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Originally Posted by Pinky
The Modified VICS manifold went out today- Holy **** Son, do you live in the boonies or what?!? It cost a goddamned fortune to ship it! All in the name of research I suppose.

Enjoy the packaging….
I maintain an address in the middle of nowhere (That is unfortunately a several hour drive from where I live now) where I work on cars for two reasons...

1) No one gives a **** if I'm up at 1am in the morning banging on cars, running exhaustless, or any other whacky **** I end up doing there

2) No emissions. No inspections. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch. Pay my cash, get new tabs no matter the condition or the state of the car there.

So, yeah, that address is completely and totally out in the boonies is what I'm getting at. As far and as cheap as is possible.

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Sub'd for packaging pics.
I'll be sure to get lots of packaging pics. I'm actually halfway afraid to find out about the special job that Pinky made up, considering the area.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
I maintain an address in the middle of nowhere (That is unfortunately a several hour drive from where I live now) where I work on cars for two reasons...

1) No one gives a **** if I'm up at 1am in the morning banging on cars, running exhaustless, or any other whacky **** I end up doing there

2) No emissions. No inspections. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch. Pay my cash, get new tabs no matter the condition or the state of the car there.

So, yeah, that address is completely and totally out in the boonies is what I'm getting at. As far and as cheap as is possible.



I'll be sure to get lots of packaging pics. I'm actually halfway afraid to find out about the special job that Pinky made up, considering the area.
Consider having packages shipped to a less remote address- it cost me $70+ to ship one manifold!! But, given that it will absolutely cement my place as The King Of Very Rude Packaging, worth every penny.

(Hint - You may want to roll video…)
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Originally Posted by canyonarrow
What are you going to use for a throttle body?

Vlad RTV'd the **** out of the TB flange on his flat top, so I don't think it's coming off. Ever. But if a stock NB TB will throw off the test, I'll keep working on it.
it was a thin layer of the strongest automotive silicone, don't hate

I don't mess around with potential leaks lol
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Stock NB TPS is what I'm looking for.
then his will work fine
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given that it will absolutely cement my place as The King Of Very Rude Packaging, worth every penny.

(Hint - You may want to roll video…)
sounds promising
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Originally Posted by 18psi
it was a thin layer of the strongest automotive silicone, don't hate

I don't mess around with potential leaks lol
Between the silicone and the 400ft-lbs you used to bolt the TB to the manifold, I think your manifold would rupture before that joint would fail!


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Consider having packages shipped to a less remote address- it cost me $70+ to ship one manifold!! But, given that it will absolutely cement my place as The King Of Very Rude Packaging, worth every penny.

(Hint - You may want to roll video…)


Did you stuff the entire manifold with packing peanuts? If not, Vlad has you beat there. I should have taken pictures.

Although my friends did enjoy watching me blow out my intake manifold like 'a retarded kid playing the French Horn.'

They were also amused that there were some loose bolts in the bottom of the box; I remedied this by pouring the packing peanuts out on my friend's living room floor. When he started complaining I drowned him out with mah 'tard horn.

Everything looks great, Vlad. Thanks again!

Ugh...just realized I could have just left the peanuts in there and let Blaen's engine eat them.


Anyway, Blaen, I need your address. I can ship it early next week.

-Mike
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