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allofit 09-27-2021 06:42 AM

Vacuum at idle and during deceleration acceptable kpa?
 
My NB2 idles at 37-38kpa @ 900rpm (14.5 AFR, 17 degrees timing) and during hard deceleration pulls a vacuum of 21kpa.

Do these numbers look a little on the high side? I'm thinking the idle vacuum should be more like 29-32kpa and the decel vacuum more like 12-15kpa.


Ted75zcar 09-27-2021 08:49 AM

Numbers look high to me.

Reverant 09-27-2021 08:57 AM

High. Should be 28-32 at idle and 12-16 at full decel in gear.

allofit 09-27-2021 09:23 AM

Suspecting a vacuum leak I re-torqued the upper intake manifold & throttle body bolts. Tightened up the boost hose to throttle body inlet. RTV'd my EGR blanking plates (threw away the old gaskets). Checked the vacuum lines to EFR recirc valve and to ECU.

Now idling at 34kpa and decel is 17kpa. Good enough?

der_vierte 09-27-2021 09:26 AM

That's where I am and my car runs great, nothing to worry about IMO

Ted75zcar 09-27-2021 09:31 AM

Not a vac leak situation. The car requires too much air to idle at the target speed. The car does not pull sufficient vac during decel.

allofit 09-27-2021 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Ted75zcar (Post 1609483)
Numbers look high to me.


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1609486)
High. Should be 28-32 at idle and 12-16 at full decel in gear.

Thanks guys. Didn't see these replies before my most recent post.


Originally Posted by der_vierte (Post 1609490)
That's where I am and my car runs great, nothing to worry about IMO

Yep it's running nice enough!

allofit 09-27-2021 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Ted75zcar (Post 1609491)
Not a vac leak situation. The car requires too much air to idle at the target speed. The car does not pull sufficient vac during decel.

Thanks Ted. If you're suggesting the engine is worn/wearing out that wouldn't be unreasonable. It's a 110k mile totally stock motor that's been abused by an EFR most of this year. Still has 185psi compression across the four cylinders though.

Guess I'd better finish my forged motor build. :likecat:


Ted75zcar 09-27-2021 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by allofit (Post 1609493)
Thanks Ted. If you're suggesting the engine is worn/wearing out that wouldn't be unreasonable. It's a 110k mile totally stock motor that's been abused by an EFR most of this year. Still has 185psi compression across the four cylinders though.

Guess I'd better finish my forged motor build. :likecat:

I have seen several different things that can lead to this, for example running 90 degrees of injection timing on a car that has been converted to sequential. Edit: this can cause high idle vac, does nothing to decel. Decel is related to the air pump.

But yes, a less than healthy motor qualifies as well.


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