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Yeah, but Cardinale Mazda is a bunch of dickbags. There use to be an awesome guy over there named Frank (IIRC) who would hook a brother up with MazdaComp pricing, but he left a while ago. :-(
Originally Posted by konmo
I'd also like to hear what the vendors have to say about the Supertech valve seals.
+1
Originally Posted by konmo
I mean if this was such a widespread problem, you would think that Supertech would look into fixing this with another revised version of the seal or something.
After you buy 100,000 seals in a production run, you tend to continue to sell them until they run out, regardless of how much they suck. Then maybe they get revised. Maybe
I'd also like to hear what the vendors have to say about the Supertech valve seals.
And you'd listen to ebay vendors about their perfect fitment / never crack manifolds? Why would you take a sellers word over the experienced people here?
Yeah, but Cardinale Mazda is a bunch of dickbags. There use to be an awesome guy over there named Frank (IIRC) who would hook a brother up with MazdaComp pricing, but he left a while ago. :-(
+1
After you buy 100,000 seals in a production run, you tend to continue to sell them until they run out, regardless of how much they suck. Then maybe they get revised. Maybe
The guy there is Alex. He actually price matched priority Mazda and was going to give me the $120 price for the seals. I still thought that was a lot though, funny cause I spent WAY more on other things. And you're right, I don't think they'd just toss there current stock and make a new run of these to correct the issues some people are reporting.
Originally Posted by rleete
And you'd listen to ebay vendors about their perfect fitment / never crack manifolds? Why would you take a sellers word over the experienced people here?
Yup, what EO2K said. I'm talking about the forum vendors here. I'm sure plenty of these have been sold, and probably installed and used by them. I just want to hear what they have to say about this.
Supertech isn't making these... They aren't just going to "make a new run."
Yeah, they probably fit some other application and they just bought them in bulk on the cheap.
Now.
If we can figure out what other applications fit, like a Kia or Nissan or Ford or something, we can probably find these without the Mazda tax. Just so long as they don't turn out like those Ford oil pump seals, we should be good.
Yeah, they probably fit some other application and they just bought them in bulk on the cheap.
Now.
If we can figure out what other applications fit, like a Kia or Nissan or Ford or something, we can probably find these without the Mazda tax. Just so long as they don't turn out like those Ford oil pump seals, we should be good.
You're going down the same exact path that got you to leaky Supertech seals.
You're going down the same exact path that got you to leaky Supertech seals.
I mean, its absolutely a 'suck it and see' situation, I have no illusions about that. But if I can get a set of seals for a Ford Festiva for $30 and its just the Mazda part with a Ford sticker on the box (or vice versa) weelllll...
So it looks like 949 Racing offers their "super miata valve seal", which come from the same supplier for fel pro according to the their website. Supermiata Valve Seal Miata
However while researching on this, I found a thread from 2015 on M.net where someone recommended supertech seals from 949. This is the link that was posted. 949 Racing - Supermiata (http://949racing.com/supertech-valve-seals-miata.aspx)
The Supertech valve seal link from 949 is dead now so it seems like they used to offer the supertech valve seals before, then switched over to their own seals which come from the same supplier as felpro.
Also TSE sells the Supertech valve seals on their site. Supertech Viton Valve Seals I wonder if Andrew has had any issues with them? Hopefully he can chime in with his opinion on this.
Mazda lists 2 different valve stem seals for the 1.8L. Following is a crossover list (including dimensional info, vehicles and part ##) from S.B. International who happens to supply a lot of OEM and aftermarket valve train parts.
Meh. I put supertech's I ordered from 949 on the head I just refurb'd. We'll see how they do.
I remember being surprised that they were color coded, but the colors seemed unintuitively backwards: like the blue ones go on the exhaust valves and the brown ones on the intake. From a human factors design perspective, it seems like you'd want it the other way around. I'm curious whether the root of the problem is that either they got the part numbers switched, or people are putting the blue ones on the intake by mistake.
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