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BogusSVO 05-23-2012 06:29 PM

What Happens to a head in a machine shop
 
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What Happens to a head in a machine shop

First Not all shops have the same equipment and the procedures from one shop to the next can and will differ.
Some shops cater to domestics and others imports or even diesels.
Some shops will view everything as a “stock” rebuilds.
So….
The most important thing to know is the shop you use and the equipment they will use.

The subject head is a Mitsubishi 4G63 7 Bolt

The first thing that should happen is the machinist looks at the head. Checking for the obvious damage, broken bolts, stripped bolt holes, bent valves, ect.
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At this point it is up to you as the customer, inform the shop what you want done, such as…
1) Pressure test for cracks
2) Valve job
3) Surface
4) Guide work
5) Any performance work wanted
Also now is the time to speak about who will provide what parts, valves, seals, guides, springs, ect.

Now the shop should be able to give you, the customer, an approximate estimate of what the parts and labor will cost.

You as the customer have the choice to agree, or go somewhere else.
Now that your head is at the machine shop, and you have agreed to have the work done.

The first thing to happen is the head will be disassembled.

The tools needed are
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Wire basket for small parts springs, valves, ect
Small container for valve locks
Valve lock release tool (socket method)
Hammer
10mm socket
12mm socket
12mm socket
Ratchet
5.5mm allen bit socket or wrench
Pocket magnet
Long reach needle nose pliers w/45* bend
Impact gun (not pictured)

Cam gears come off first, use impact with the 17mm socket
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Next remove the cam tower caps, use impact or ratchet w/12mm socket.
Start at the ends working towards the center
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Once the cam caps are removed, lift the cams out.

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Next lift the roller followers out
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Now you can remove the HLA’s
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Now remove the oil spliter
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Now remove any other small bolts
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This is a “heat tab” Most machine shops use them.
The center will slide down at 240-250* and totally dissolve at 260*
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Next is to remove the valve train.
Yes the same method that a lot of DIY people use are used in a machine shop.
Use a basket and a paint cap, have a pocket magnet handy too.
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Have your “tool” and hammer ready to go
Place the tool on the spring retainer and give it a firm whack.
The locks will stay in the tool and release the retainer and spring.
Place the retainers and spring in the basket
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Fish the valve locks out of the head casting with the pocket magnet.
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Place the valve locks in the paint can cap.
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Now remove the spring seats with the pocket magnet and place in the spring basket to be cleaned.
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Next roll the head over and remove the valves and place in the basket.
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This head was rebuilt once before, it must have had bent valves.So I will change the valve guides.
Now roll the head back over and remove the valve stem seals, throw these in the trash.
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Next grab the 5mm allen bit and remove all the oil galley plugs. Keep these to be installed later, place in the paint cap with the valve locks.
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The last thing done is to remove the cracked valve guides.
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Now that the head is fully stripped, it can be tech’ed
First thing is to do a quick clean on the head gasket surface.
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Next is to measure head thickness.
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Now to check to see how bad the head is warped.
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Notes are taken to reference back too.
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If it all checks out, it goes to cleaning.
It gets thermal cleaning, then glass beaded.
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Next oil port mod #1 is done
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Next all the oil galleys get gun brushed
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Now the entire head will be blown off with compressed air, including every bolt hole to make sure there is no glass bead media is left in or on the casting.
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next is a coat of spray paint to seal the casting.
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Now new guides can be installed.
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They are set to height.
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Now the valve seats can be cut.
Fist is to set the head in the machine and secure it properly.
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The proper sized pilot is selected.
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The head is now leveled in the machine.
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Now to set up the seat cutter.
First is to find where the seat is to make contact on the valve.
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Now the cutter bit can be set.
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The seats are cut.
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Now the valves are lapped.
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The small parts of he head have been cleaned, retainers, springs ect.
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Valve springs are tested.
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Most valve springs have been found weak, so New BC1100 springs will be installed
(stock spring on left, BC spring on right)
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A broken exhaust stud was found and removed.
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The valves are ground.
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Ground and ready to be installed.
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Now the head can be surfaced.
The head is set up and secured to the milling machine.
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The proper surface finish is milled for the head gasket to be used.
(a composite for this one) You can see that this head was belt surfaced before.
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The head is now blown out to remove metal flake from milling and seat cutting.



Now that the machining is done, it is time to assemble the head.

Valve tip height is checked to make sure it is in spec.
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The valves are removed, lubed up and slid back into the same hole they came from.
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A package of valve seals found in a head gasket set.
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Now the seals are pushed on by hand
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Now seals can be installed, this is my “hi-Tech” seal installer.
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Now the seals are tapped into place securely.
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Now spring shims are installed if needed.
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The spring shim goes on before the spring seat.
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Now the cleaned spring seats are installed.
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On top of the spring shims.
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The new valve springs, BC1100
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Now the new BC1100 springs are placed in the head, on the spring seat.
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I will set the head back in the TnS 2000 Seat and guide machine, Using this adapter I will compress the valve springs.
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Now before I compress the spring, I will take the valve spring retainer.
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Install the valve locks,
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Then place it on top of the spring.
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Now with the spring and retainer compressed,
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I can push the valve locks into place.
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Repeat the process till all the springs and locks are seated properly.
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Now this customer is going to install new 3g HLA’s. So no need for me to install the last of the valve train.
I check the valve to seat seal one last time.
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I did install the cam tower caps on their proper side and position.
Each cam tower bolt received a quick dip in oil, since all the bolt threads are dry.
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Now the oil galley plugs received a dab of sealant.
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Then started by hand to prevent cross threading.
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Then tighten to seal.
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I measure the head for thickness and make a not of how much was removed.
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The final step is to CC the combustion chamber so proper compression ratio can be calculated.
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This head is now done, and ready for the customer to pick up and install.

91gst 05-23-2012 07:17 PM

Wow man, thanks for posting that. Now I can understand why machine work costs so much. I'm getting ready to drop my head and block off so its nice to see what may be done.

BogusSVO 05-23-2012 10:26 PM

91gst. No prob!

I hope you will know what to look for!!

Miata Valve spring info and tech

https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/valve-springs-go-where-51426/


More info on head work.

Pressure testing a head.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/how-aluminum-head-pressure-tested-cracks-64549/

How to check a head for warp
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...636#post855636

How to replace a seat in an alumium head
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...583#post855583

How to changes guides
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/how-change-valve-guides-alumimum-cylinder-head-64857/

How to test valve springs
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/how-test-valve-springs-64474/

How to lap a valve
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/how-lap-valve-64835/

How to clean a head gasket surface.
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...665#post862665

Why NOT to let your head be belt surfaced.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/why-not-let-your-head-belt-surfaced-64394/

How to resurface an Alumium head
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...818#post863818

How to clean the block deck with the pistons in
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/head-gasket-repair-how-clean-block-surface-w-pistons-installed-65074/

mc85 05-29-2012 01:59 AM

This is really sweet info. Will need to re-read a few times. Thanks

absRTP 06-19-2012 02:18 PM

nice write up!

BogusSVO 06-19-2012 06:49 PM

Now that you have read how a basic head build is done...

this is a bit more advanced..

Head build_Modified
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/head-build-modified-66086/

absRTP 06-20-2012 08:48 AM

May I just slip this here and maybe have you just reading it and telling me what I should do....

https://www.miataturbo.net/showpost....28&postcount=1


I hate thread Hijacking, but I would like to have a real machinist taking a look at it....

Thank you

whistler 06-21-2012 02:53 AM

holy crap! thats a lot of work. In the next few weeks, I'll be taking the head off an mx3 and sending it in for some cleaning and machining.

Orion ZyGarian 06-22-2012 04:35 PM

I dont have enough 'props' I can give you


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