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wackbards 06-19-2018 11:37 AM

Why am I stuck on the side of the road?
 
Tried to drive the Miata in to work today, and it suddenly died. AFRs went full lean, then it died. I was logging at the time, so I can post any log data.

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matrussell122 06-19-2018 11:52 AM

Did it start back up after it died? Anything else you noticed that might have been out of the usual?

hornetball 06-19-2018 11:55 AM

Fuel pumps don't last forever. That was my issue last month. Other items to check, main relay, fuel pump relay, frayed wiring.

matrussell122 06-19-2018 11:56 AM

Are you still stuck on the side of the road? If you are in the kent area I might be able to leave work for a bit and help.

wackbards 06-19-2018 11:58 AM

No nothing obvious. It doesn't seem to be a lost sinc, since the count was 0 until after the afr went full lean.

This sounds stupid, but it might be just it of gas? It didn't sputter though. My empty mark might have moved after changing my gauge faces. I have a friend bringing me some gas

wackbards 06-19-2018 11:59 AM

I'm in Snohomish, but thanks.

I hear the pump priming when I turn the ignition on.

wackbards 06-19-2018 01:33 PM

Aaaaaand it was gas. I ran out of gas. Like a dope. 1/8th tank is the new empty.

codrus 06-19-2018 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by wackbards (Post 1487130)
Aaaaaand it was gas. I ran out of gas. Like a dope. 1/8th tank is the new empty.

Heh. I know someone who brought his new race car to the track for a test day, took it out, spent an hour debugging "misfires", gave up, towed it home, dropped it off at his mechanic's, and then paid for 3 hours of labor to diagnose a car that was out of gas and had a broken gas gauge. :)

--Ian

wackbards 06-19-2018 02:07 PM

Oh man, I hope you gave him a hard time for that one. I feel lucky I was logging. I would have checked a bunch of other things first otherwise. Seeing the AFR go max lean in the log before any other events combined with a pump that was still priming was a strong indicator.

x_25 06-21-2018 03:28 PM

I cam fairly close to doing this in my NB. My NA only takes 9.5 galons when the pointer has gone past the empty line and is pointing at the top left corner of the E. The NB is out at the line... I was just a smidge above it when I filled up the first time and took almost a whole tank of gas...

Balto 06-22-2018 02:20 AM

Random question slightly relates to the comment.

Why do you guys let your tanks get so low? I killed a DW400 on my supercharger Mustang a long time ago, and I suspect it was because I always ran the tank to almost empty before refilling.

wackbards 06-22-2018 06:34 AM

Because of reasons mostly.

Braineack 06-22-2018 09:31 AM

because i have to idle for 30 minutes at costco before the pump is available to save .05 a gallon.

matrussell122 06-22-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1487741)
because i have to idle for 30 minutes at costco before the pump is available to save .05 a gallon.


Isnt this the truth though.

Marioshi 06-22-2018 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Balto (Post 1487718)
Random question slightly relates to the comment.

Why do you guys let your tanks get so low? I killed a DW400 on my supercharger Mustang a long time ago, and I suspect it was because I always ran the tank to almost empty before refilling.

Because the Miata has a tiny tank and mediocre fuel economy? This was the reason I drove my S2000 up to 50 miles with the gas light on regularly. Otherwise I would have been filling up everyday.

codrus 06-22-2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Balto (Post 1487718)
Why do you guys let your tanks get so low? I killed a DW400 on my supercharger Mustang a long time ago, and I suspect it was because I always ran the tank to almost empty before refilling.

Because fuel is heavy, dude. :)

(Actually a semi-serious answer here -- most serious autocrossers will run with just enough fuel to keep it from starving in corners, because that's 60 pounds of weight they don't need to carry around the course).

--Ian

18psi 06-22-2018 01:43 PM

Many brain cells were lost in the reading of this thread

wackbards 06-22-2018 01:48 PM

Many lost brain cells contributed to the creation of this thread.

Erat 06-22-2018 02:48 PM


wackbards 06-22-2018 02:52 PM

Lololol

Hold on. I'm not done.
Lololol

Yeah, that's about how I feel about the whole situation.


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