Why does it feel slower at WOT than at partial throttle?
I've been curious about this feeling for some time. My car seems to accelerate slower under WOT than under partial throttle. I've searched for the similar issues but only found a related topic with e90 BMWs. Any clue what may be going on?
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placebo effect.
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Faster? Or spooling faster?
Ive noticed that rolling into the throttle seems to make a turbo spool a little faster than just punching it. More noticeable with extra big ass turbos like Hondas tend to run. |
^ Yep. And some tiny turbos get awesome surge issues along the same lines.
Also, check your throttle linkage. And your maps vs data logs, Seen maps with a timing drop at a certain MAP/IAT that often roughly corresponds to WOT vs 80% throttle. If cold weather tends to move that 'optimal throttle point' lower, then you may have your culprit. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1125221)
placebo effect.
Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
(Post 1125235)
Faster? Or spooling faster?
Ive noticed that rolling into the throttle seems to make a turbo spool a little faster than just punching it. More noticeable with extra big ass turbos like Hondas tend to run.
Originally Posted by Sparetire
(Post 1125345)
^ Yep. And some tiny turbos get awesome surge issues along the same lines.
Also, check your throttle linkage. And your maps vs data logs, Seen maps with a timing drop at a certain MAP/IAT that often roughly corresponds to WOT vs 80% throttle. If cold weather tends to move that 'optimal throttle point' lower, then you may have your culprit. |
I can think of some reasons part throttle feels faster:
1. better tuning at lower TPS. (Richness isn't conducive to power) 2. increased intake flow velocity from throttling the airway leads to better mixing which could lead to better torque |
what does your spark and fuel map look like at part throttle vs full? leaner + tons of timing = faster
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This is what I have now. Spark and fuel seem very constant. However, this is at WOT and I don't have anything for partial.
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there is a drastic difference in timing
also are you using an mbc? |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1125433)
there is a drastic difference in timing
also are you using an mbc? No mbc it's all wastegate. |
your map is triggering a difference of 5* between part throttle and wot.
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Your fuel map is a mess, dude.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1125472)
Your fuel map is a mess, dude.
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Originally Posted by buffon01
(Post 1125357)
Could all this is based on buttdyno data. However, the car use to feel much more alive before. Or maybe I got used to it
no it's more like: if you're at 200kPa at 50% throttle, and 200kPa at 100% throttle is a difference in regards to engine load? |
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