How bad is mig welding stainless with C25?
PO of my NB1 put an OBX header and 01+ EGR pipe on. The EGR pipe fitting has broken off the #4 runner. I have a small mig welder and a bottle of C25. I can pick up some 308 wire.
I know the C25 will mix with the stainless and make it suseptable to rust, but, is this a "it will last a few days" thing or "it will last a few years" thing? I would rather not have to get another bottle that I won't use. And before anyone says EGR delete, I need to get through inspection in December. After that I am good for 2 years though. |
I would avoid welding stainless with mig, but that's me.
Tig would give significantly better results. |
Originally Posted by WigglingWaffles
(Post 1548527)
I would avoid welding stainless with mig, but that's me.
Tig would give significantly better results. |
It will hold up fine, it will just corrode over time, less so than a comparable mild steel piece.
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There is no reason to avoid MIG welding Stainless in a Miata application.
C25 is the gas of choice. It will eventually corode unless you use stainless steel wire (which can be purchased at just about any welding supply store) |
Perfect. I will pull the header out and give it a go. I have about 1-2h of arc time experiance with flux, and will practice a bit with mig before I actually go for it and see how it goes.
I bought some 1mm wall thickness 304 tube to put inside of it and add reenforcement as well since I tried using the exhaust putty at first (didn't work, too brittle and just cracked off) |
It will be more susceptible to brittle failure and oxidation. But it should hold up for a while.
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Originally Posted by Scaxx
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It will be more susceptible to brittle failure and oxidation. But it should hold up for a while.
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When it fails, it's not going to be in the weld. It will be at the toe of the weld or just outside of it. No monster bead required.
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Ahh, that makes sense. I will try and keep it small then so there is space to re-weld when it goes.
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Finally got the parts out that I need to weld. Any suggestions on how to go about this? Got the machine set up for gas, gonna try and find a piece or two of scrap 304 around to practice.
Best I can figure is I have some 8mm OD 1mm wall stainless tube, shove that inside, weld it, then weld the piece on? Gonna have a good sized gap since the EGR nipple pipe thing is oval (11mmx8.8mm). Need to attack everything with wire brushes first. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569372289 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569372289 |
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Huge thanks guys! It went great. Once I figured out my garage circuit had too much voltage drop to run the welder correctly with mig wire. It works fine with flux core though? I am a bit baffled. With the mig wire it would just pop, not a nice stead arc. Flux was fine. Once I ran an extension cord from the kitchen circuit, it was perfectly happy with the mig wire though.
Anyway, my first stainless weld, tested it in a vice. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569706979 Second one came out even better. Penetration looked good. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569706979 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569706979 And the finished fix. I reinforced the inside with some 8mmOD 1mm wall thickness 304 tubing. So hopefully it will be sturdy. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569706979 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1569706979 |
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