can we dump the image applet?
 

It's driving me nuts.

BEFORE:
click image icon, paste immediately into box, hit enter.

NOW:
click image icon, paste immediately SHIT it went into the text box, wait for applet to load...

...

...

paste again and click insert or click cancel and manually enter IMG tags around url I pasted at normal human speed (usually vastly eclipsed by anything a computer can do, except for loading an image applet).

I hate it.

seventeen hate cats.
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I understand this frustration :hatecat:

I usually end up typing my IMG tags rather than using the applet.

Yes please. Used to be super quick, now I have to wait for it to load. Although I used to have to wait for photobucket to upload the picture, so in that sense it's faster.

Pr-existing images: slow

images on my computer: just as fast as it was.

<p>WIth the text editor you have to use for the callouts&nbsp;@y8s, you can't even type IMG tags. [img]https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/hatecat.png[/img]</p>

I'm typing img tags all the time now. I'm even doing it while driving.
It's dangerous. This applet is going to get somebody hurt.

I vote hate. I'm a hater.

I've also gotten into the habit of manually typing the [IMG] and [/IMG] tags as well. I like the fact that the forum still automatically re-hosts my images when I do this, and it's much faster and more convenient than the applet. If this new image uploader app lasts much longer, I'm going to re-map the Scroll Lock key on my keyboard to a macro which types that for me. :hatecat:

Honestly, I really liked the old method. Click the https://www.miataturbo.net/mt2011/im...sertimage.gif? button, immediately hit Ctrl-V Enter, and done. The new applet adds precisely zero functionality as compared to that, especially since the deletion of attachments still has to be done via the Attachment 232957 button which, for the record, works perfectly well and should not be changed. :likecat:

<p>This is a test:</p><p><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)">EDIT: wide pic deleted for Six. Now Y8S can kill his, if he cares.&nbsp;</span><br /><br />For me, uploading from my computer, and using the site to host (I don't use flicker or other image hosting sites) the new system is easier. But, I have to navigate to the image, drag and drop does not work.</p>

Applet makes me sad.

its great for muliple files, sucks for single.

drop and drop in the text editor is the bomb. too bad we are stuck on like 1995 vb and trying to inject modern stuff into io...

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>When this gets fixed, I would appreciate a quick tutorial on the quickest way to upload images from my computer, not the interweb. I <strong>use </strong>computers, but I don't <strong>know </strong>computers.</p><p>And @Schuyler, you are right that the switch in font from type to display is crazy as well (from the other thread). This should be WYSIWYG.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Said no vendor ever

The new applet is not significantly better for multiple files than the Attachment 232953 button.

In a perfect universe, the https://www.miataturbo.net/mt2011/im...sertimage.gif? button would go back to the old popup into which you can quickly paste a link and be done with it. And a new system would be devised which merges the functionality of the existing Attachment 232953 button with that of the new applet, giving users a quick and easy way to upload a file directly from their PC and insert it into the message, while also permitting attachments which have already been uploaded to be deleted.

I realize that's asking for a lot, and I'd be perfectly happy if the Attachment 232953 remained completely unchanged and the new applet simply died in a fire. I'm just allowing for the fact that some people might find the "upload from local" functionality of the new applet to me marginally more user-friendly than the way the existing Attachment 232953 screen works (even though it provides the same level of functionality.)

In which case, you just add a ? after the extension, and the forum respects the original url.

Example:

Attachment 232951

Notice that that image wasn't re-hosted, and still points to its original location. I achieved this by typing:

[attach]232951[/attach]

(edit: stupid VB trying to parse my image URL as a link, despite the fact that I used the [noparse] tag.)


99% of the time, automatic re-hosting is desirable. Those individuals who know enough about how the internet works to care about whether their images are re-hosted or not can easily prevent the forum from doing so.

hate the stupid new app
+1 for bring back the old picture insert thing
+1 for love that most images get re-hosted

can you use the manage attachments button, grab a whole bunch of files, click okay and they are automagically inputted into the text via bbc?

manage attachments.

edit: this took 14 mouse clicks.

applet.

edit: this took 6 mouse clicks (could have been less if I used drag and drop).

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a8dfed1f31.jpg


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bde3d85b95.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dd7bbcf98d.jpg

I should also point out that whatever method DNMakinson used to upload this spewed a bunch of HTML into the post and defeated the image resizer forcing all text on the page to be wider than my browser so I had to side scroll to read all posts longer than the width of my browser.

fuck
that
nosie

!!
:hatecat::hatecat::eggplant::hatecat:

<p><img src="https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.miataturbo.net-vbulletin/2000x333/80-liverpool_dock_21106x3509_1ec0221997758a4222f5d99d 94c87496e317df69.jpg" title="" />testing using the new editor and image apple</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>uh huh. &nbsp;new CKeditor thing breaks image resizes.</p>

To quote myself from the exact same post in which you selectively quoted me saying that the "manage attachment" button wasn't significantly better than the new applet:


You know what's coming next:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1436900969

<p>I'm a good tester. Tend to break things by doing stuff that those skilled in the art might not attempt.</p>

Well, we could optimize this for :brain:, or we could exercise KISS and serve the vast majority of users better. Just sayin'.

I got news for you: Brain DGAF.

Thread, co-signed.

That's news?

I hate you guys for making me scroll left to right to read.

<p>On my portrait monitor this thread is hell. :eggplant:</p><p><span>@DNMakinson I use imgur. Sign up, upload pictures. My favorite bit is that when you go view all your pictures you can click on the &quot;view image info&quot; drop-down and change to Generate image links. Then you select everything you want. Pick your format (I use Linked BBCode, so it auto-generates the [IMG] tags for me. Then choose your size (so I don't have huge pictures) and then copy what is generated.</span></p><p><span>Works great for my build thread. For posting random pictures from online the applet sucks. But I barely use it because of how Imgur does stuff.</span></p>

<p>But I understand that imgur drops pics after a time. I don't want my build thread to end up with broken links after a while. Now if the forum pics them up and re-hosts them, then I wouldn't mind going that route.</p>

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<br />That's news to me I have 1200 imgur photos.

I've used a number of free image hosts over the years. Imageshack, Picoodle, Geocities, Imgur, Kodak...

Thus far, Imgur is the only one that hasn't completely fucked me over by deleting my old pictures, closing abruptly, disallowing hotlinks, or suddenly throttling my bandwidth quota to nothing and not even allowing me to download my old images unless I pay them.

I fully expect that to change, however. Free third-party image hosts simply cannot be trusted. I've lost way too much work and too many "howto" drawings...


It does. It has for quite a while. It's free, it's automatic, and we won't delete your shit.

...yet.

...unless you are saving props. Or anything else that may be arbitrarily removed by the ownership. This ain't yer stuff here.

back on topic please. can someone using the new interface tag the IB staff?

my post was relevant to this:

I'd rather you be able to drag and drop images directly into this window but you cant. I'd also like to be able to poo from my chair right now without getting up. But none of that matters.

You said CURRENTLY the [MA] button is better than the applet. I disagree:

you have to first click "go advanced", then "manage attachments", then click upload for each individual file. You can only upload 5. Then you have to click "upload".

If you want to then display the images inline to your post, you need to then right click on each image get the new image url, and paste each link in the text area and surround them with [img] tags.

with the applet, you can click the image icon from the quick reply box. Click "browse my device" and select all the images you want to attach at once. It displays the images youve attached, gives you an area to attach text to each one and adjust the display order. Then when you click "insert" it inserts the images into the text formatted corrected for display.

That's MUCH better. sorry, but it is.


Oh wait, I'm sorry, I actually argued your point, sorry.

In a perfect world I'd like to ride an attack turtle down the streets of Arlington. Therefore you on wrong to suggest thehe new applet is not significantly better for multiple files than the [MA] button.

So you know what's coming next:

Attachment 232958

<p></p><p>Whats that...</p><p><span>@IB Nolan</span></p>

My question is why are we trying to make old VB bulletin software work with new shit? Why not upgrade to the newest version like any other forum does? Legacy software adapted to new software is fucking infuriating a la my label printer that has drivers and software that barely work in windows 7 unless you offer a goat sacrifice to the printer gods.

Because IB hosts thousands of forums and doing a mass upgrade is an easy way to break them all.

fuck all other forums.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sqpZxO0NdB...Guinea+Hen.jpg
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thin...l&tid=33839070
http://images.northrup.org/picture/x...baby-pig-2.jpg
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/gr...Equal_sign.png
http://archive.vetknowledge.com/file...-pig---tan.jpg

Guinea pigs, while moronic, are undeniably cute.

That said, I don't think there's any need to pop a gasket about the forum software in general. Frankly I'm glad that we're not having to be a beta tester VB5. We're on release 3.8.7, and it works pretty damned well. I can absolutely guarantee that if we were to upgrade to 5.0, you guys would be bitching and screaming worse than if the ownership of cats as pets in the US were outlawed.

90% of the changes which have been made to this forums config over the past few years have been huge positives. Occasionally, something retarded gets implemented, and the new image uploader app is an example of that. But comparing that to a legacy printer driver is just retarded.

For the record, I have a 10 year old Panduit label printer with a parallel port on it, and not only does it work just fine under Win7, I have it shared across the domain here at work so that everyone can print to it directly out of WireCAD.

Parllel port. What's that?

We have a wireless brother label printer that works... like a printer. The software is lame, but it does its job.

I haven't tried Brother but HP has the worst, most bloated software to conduct a simple printing operation I have ever dealt with. The UI sucks and it is constantly robbing resources from the CPU and internet bandwidth. I don't know if it is selling all of my files to the Chinese or what, but it won't let you stop whatever it is communicating.

Datamax I-4208 label printer.

Their software is shit.

*edit* I wasn't so much throwing a hissy fit, as stating a point. It honestly doesn't bug me since Imgur gives you the bbcode ready to copy and paste.

I absolutely love the Brother P-Touch Editor software. It's got a very clean, simple interface with a WYSIWYG interface. I'm slightly annoyed by how much label stock the P-touch machines typically waste in between prints, but the software lets you work around that when connected to a PC; if you're printing a number of labels, even manually one at a time, you can tell the printer not to advance and cut the previous one until after you've sent the next one.

The printer I have now is a portable unit with a full QWERTY keyboard, and is shared among the department. I've been thinking of getting one of these just for myself to leave on my desk.

http://assetsw.sellpoint.net/_acp_/4..._555657/01.jpg
Brother PT-P700 PC-Connectable Label Printer for PC and Mac

As a bonus, it's far more compact than what I use now (barely larger than the label cartridge) yet still compatible with all of our existing label stock.


Incidentally, this is not the parallel-port printer I was referring to earlier. That one prints self-laminating cable labels that come on a large roll, using film-transfer printing from a separate ribbon. Basically the very old version of this:

http://images1.cableorganizer.com/pa...ls_printer.jpg



The Brother P-touch is one I use for labeling equipment, patchbays, etc.

We have this guy:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3e0943ad90.jpg

Works great. Wifi printing makes it super easy to share. You can even print silly little pictures or draw your own and paste them into the software.

like so (.47 inch wide label):

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...57aaa5689e.jpg

What is the largest size label those can print to? The thing I love about the Datamax is you can print a 5" wide label and it has really high resolution due to being a thermal ink ribbon printer.

Plus it can pump out labels extremely fast. Although, the quality difference is made apparent by its $2k retail price tag.

Those Brother printers are slick looking though.

The TZe label stock comes as wide as 0.94"

These printers are for sticking labels on patch bays, ID tags on equipment, that sort of thing. If you need 5" wide labels, they're not for you.

Unless the other dimension is .94"...

I use the brother for prototype labeling and such. I can mostly mimic our production labeling with the software INCLUDING various formats of barcode-- which it can automagically generate given an alphanumeric string.

Or .23", or .35", or .47", or .70". The thinner stuff in particular is awesome for labeling things like RJ-45 panels, 110 blocks, etc., where they only give you a very skinny place to label them. The P-Touch editor software has a nice feature where you tell it the overall width of the label and the number of spaces you want it divided into, and it automagically creates a frame template for you. Great for connector panels.

I also use the skinny stuff to label the programmable buttons on audio consoles, video switchers, etc. It's super-durable.


They also have a 1.4" wide label stock that's only compatible with some of the printers, but that stuff is awesome for sticking large labels on the tops of racks to identify them by number. This is especially helpful in a facility in which we have over 400 racks.

<p>I will agree that the new image uploader is slower for a single image and we should have improvements coming to replicate the old experience where you would just paste a single URL and go. At some point we would love to have the&nbsp;uploader handle attachment files (docx, pdf, etc.) and avoid having several different ways to accomplish the same thing - presuming we can get the single solution working better.&nbsp;</p><p>MT is the best site at giving feedback and you guys may get a lot of the newer features that are still in early phases sooner than most communities. So stick with us in that regard because are intentions aren't to blow everything up.&nbsp;</p><p>The image re-sizer is one portion that is going to be fixed and the [img] tags work &nbsp;if editing in source mode but we are updating to let them work in the regular view.&nbsp;</p><p></p><p>This. Hardest part about what our tech folks do is that every one of our sites has something new that can break depending on products and settings. We have somewhat unified the products and working instead to just build in a lot of popular features going forward if the older products are broken/outdated&nbsp;(props).&nbsp;</p><p>vBulletin was created nearly a decade ago and we are trying to make huge leaps to update the format in the next year to try and keep up. We are basically&nbsp;a skunk works team in the Auto dept. and are making our own branch that the vb5 team have no idea about.</p><p>Basic idea is to clean up and modernize the way the forum handles across all platforms and things like images may even move to HTML5 so they can scale based on screen size. We will likely test a responsive &quot;Next-Gen&quot;&nbsp;template on MT and here are really basic mockups (not responsive in mockups of course):<br />Next-Gen Forum</p><p>I am listening and we&nbsp;will continue to try and make updates as soon as we can.&nbsp;</p>

We fear change.

Any forum which is not indistinguishable from a 1980s era BBS is bad.

http://www.amiexpress.co.uk/wp-conte...lider01_mm.jpg

I want HTML5 yesyesyes.

I miss MS-DOS. And WordPerfect 5.0 (press "Reveal Codes" and see everything that's going on in your document). Sigh.

That looks far more advanced than when I started using BBS' in '97. How did they get colour?!


Oh... 2004.

ANSI graphics with color were commonplace in the 80s. That particular screenshot is from CNET BBS which ran in the Amiga, but PCs with CGA or better also supported 80x25 with color under ANSI.SYS on a variety of BBS platforms such as Wildcat, WWIV, Major, Searchlight, etc.