sry, i dont have the cash flow for a fisheye zoom...

but i do have a 70-200mm f2.8 for nikon af-s.....

fisheyes are for suckers.

and 233 might cover his circular polarizer.

Fail factor needs to come back. Right meow.

You want fail factor? just go to my build thread. 17 pages and counting ;)

aaaaahhhhh ahaha :bowrofl:

Don't put yourself down. :(

It's good to know we have someone on the board who knows what to do in case we need to use vegetable oil as brake fluid, or install soviet engines in 50's American cars...

Oooohhh burn he got you.... Wait what?

Damnit, I was only half way done reading the threads that were there last weekend, went to VA for a week, came back and *poof* it's gone. That's sad, I thought that the forum was a great idea.

How bout fail factor sub section in 1337 speak.

how about a mini forum and call it (Rape Camp) <<<<<< this would be were all noob will go, let them loose on their mini boot camp.. just have it set up like a real forum and have a couple of us be mods to that section? i put myself up for election. and when we feel necessary we can alow the crap to be amongst alot of the gods that control this wonderful place.

Uh, that's dumb.

Why? If it's that or nothing I choose that.

im on a local forum here. Upon registering, new members are only allowed access to their version of the 'meet and greet' subforum. to get into the rest of the active forum community, you have to post an intro thread there., have a bit of discussion on your ride, and get 5 'rep' points from other members. once that happens, newBs are allowed full access to the boards. I'm not sure how common this practice is - ive only ever seen it on this particular forum.

unfortunately, it also stymies new membership from potentially valuable members, keeps 'outsiders' from being able to learn, and stops intelligent outsiders from being able to propose solutions to problems if they're not willing to go through the nutroll...

I think that a pretty decent idea but I never view the meet and greet section so I wouldn't be any help there. Also a good point of people not wanting to go through the noob BS

I could see that... as long as they are able to view... not post, but view the entire public forum.

Leet section is for members only, noobs aren't members, therefore: dumb idea

I mean put the noob threads in a sub section of the 1337 forums so just the members can see. Ya know, like once the thread has run itself out and is locked... I know the noobs can't post in there anymore, but we can still laugh about it.

Obviously the Fail Factor forum was best... :/