Joe Perez

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Rick, in all seriousness:

No.

$4,500 for a desktop PC? Are you kidding me? This isn't 1978. I can't imagine spending more than $1k for a high-end desktop system, and that's $1k worth of depreciated US money, not the fancy high-value stuff y'all have up there with pictures of ducks and queens on it.

And financing it? I wouldn't finance the purchase of a depreciating asset which wasn't somehow involved in, say, running a business or otherwise paying for itself many times over, even at 0% APR.

(And yes, I'm fully aware of what business you're in. You could do that from a $250 Netbook.)


This thread is just wrong.


Is Scott really kicking your **** this badly in CoD?

jbrown7815

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That's a quality *** post right there Joe Perez.

240_to_miata

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my company paid like 5 grand for my desktop. I cant remember all the specs, but its 24gig of ram. windows 7 64 bit.

I still think its MASSIVE overkill and way overpriced. . . but thats what you get from buying it from DELL

UnknownPerson

Never saw nothin'

jeff_man

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tl;dr
Never buy a pre made gaming pc. can build better for 1/4 the price. AMD and ATi is best.

Quality Control Bot

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so sad. told wife what you all be saying, hatering. then she asked what was wrong with current system... friggen trick question.

awww well, will just build a system via parts list I suppose. Spending 5k is nuts on a system, but i do use the system for work so ... lol

Scott and I are teammates Joe. We are equal awesome.

And no, i couldnt use a $250 desktop.. I actually need some power for photochopping and other stuff.


and how can quote NCIX system with no MB???

rleete

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This should be tattooed on the forehead of everyone who has declared bankruptcy because of CC debt.

jbrown7815

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Intel is clearly superior over AMD right now, don't be a stupid fanboy. I love AMD but Intel is kicking their *** right now. ATi Vs. nVidia is a closer battle I suppose.

blaen99

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Mid to high-end, Intel's been kicking AMD's *** for...years, admittantly.

On the other hand, on the low-end, I'm unable to think of a time in the past decade where AMD has not at least been able to hold their own.

(Although, since we're talking about gaming, I'm not certain why low-end is coming into it.)

jeff_man

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Price to performance amd is better. Not paying $500 for a chip that matches the specs of a $300 amd.

FRT_Fun

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Use to always go AMD/ATi. But I have to agree, seems right now Intel is favored.

Enginerd

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Yeah...me too. On the first desktop I built (5-6 years back now), AMD seemed much more desirable. I threw up an old 1.4ghz processor on Ebay and it got like 30 bids...at which point I found that people had ben overclocking them to 1.8-1.9ghz with watercooling at the time. I took it off, bought the watercooling accessories, and sure enough it lasted me a few more years.

I'm so far out of the loop that I don't know what's quality and reliable now. I just hear coworkers recommending Intel chips a lot.

messiahx

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Sounds like my first build. That was back when the Athlon XP 1800+ was all the rage. But yeah, since the Core 2 came out it's really been Intel's game on the performance side. Also used to be a strictly nVidia guy but I did recently buy my first ATI card and am so far satisfied. Price was the deciding factor.

Oh, and Rick, just so you know, a 16GB RAM, Core i7, GTX 580 rig can be built for under $1500. And then the question becomes not what is it capable of, but for nearly all intents and purposes, what isn't it capable of? Also, overclocking and CrossFireX/SLI.

gearhead_318

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Rick, I view you as an above average person in terms of intellect, mostly b/c you created this wonderful place for me to learn about turbo witchcraft, read p0z stories, and crap on people/things/ideas that I do not like, and not so much b/c you buy 6.0 diesel Ford trucks. So I've got to ask, why do you want or need a $4,500 computer?

blaen99

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I'm thinking Rick was trolling.

BTW, Rick, if you do go top-of-the-line cards, go with a single 7970 instead of a 580 or an SLI/Crossfire platform.

FRT_Fun

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Don't think he was trolling. Maybe on the 4k thing.

But srsly $1500 is about the max that should be spent on a desktop these days. That will get you right to the point of having a fully updated system that will last. Anything beyond that the price to performance ratio goes waaaay south.

gearhead_318

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Good point, maybe he just priced a Alienware as high as he could and decided to make a troll thread...

I'll spend >$500 on a laptop when I get out of bootcamp, maybe get a refurbished one with a good graphics card and upgrade the hard drive and ram, then dual boot Win7 & Ubuntu

blaen99

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Well, I think Rick was trolling on that part Gearhead, not so much on getting spec advise for a new PC.

FRT_Fun

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I just spent $345 out the door for a more than capable laptop for anything but hardcore gaming. It could probably handle SC2 at low graphic settings, which is all I would ever need. With tablets out now I see laptops dying out in the next few years. Desktops however, will be around forever I think.

Joe Perez

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I certainly hope not.

Tablets have their place, but even if they started shipping with "real" operating systems and capable processors, a touchscreen interface isn't the greatest thing in the universe if you're working in a big database app or drawing stuff in AutoCAD. And that's pretty much what I do with my laptop when I'm using it for work.

At best, maybe a dockable tablet such as the Asus transformer, but even that concept just adds weight and fragility for something that I don't care about in the least.

It's funny that you say this.

While I agree that there will always be a small market for desktops (eg: administrative workers who do lots of text-based computing) I am already seeing a shift away from desktop PCs in pretty much every other area.

At CBS Radio's newer facilities, for instance, virtually nobody has a desktop PC outside of the actual studio / newsroom environment. Everyone else gets laptops. And even at our office, our biggest heavy-hitter CAD guy gave up his desktop PC a couple of years ago for an uber-laptop along with a docking station. I never had a desktop PC the whole time I worked for Harris. Going all the way back to '99 when I started, I always had a laptop and a docking station.