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5 Speed MSM Unicorn? Who knew?
So my friend was telling me about picking up a MazdaSpeed Miata and finding out that it had a five speed in it. He was super-confused because the car was a one-owner, so it was highly unlikely that it was swapped. A call to Mazda with the VIN number confirmed--he's got a 5 speed MSM unicorn.
As crazy as that sounds, I pulled the engine and trans today from an MSM I recently bought, and.....same thing!!! What the Hell is a 5 speed doing in an MSM? Are these truly unicorns? Anyone else out there have a 5 speed MSM? |
Thats... odd... check the vin tag on the trans and see if it matches the car.
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Picture of this 5 speed? For shits and giggles.
edit: just saw who this was. Never mind, you’re probably not an idiot. |
I wonder what rear end these cars have in them.
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1563837)
Picture of this 5 speed? For shits and giggles.
edit: just saw who this was. Never mind, you’re probably not an idiot. Unless Gabe comes clean, I may need to do some VIN checking Monday. |
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f943f68bc5.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cceda1b991.jpg Boy does that trans fluid smell! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...42061e154a.jpg Exiting the dirty dirty MSM. |
That’s also an NA 5sp not even an NB 5 speed.
I’m calling it for 100% swapped in later. |
Highly likely with this car, although I can't tell the difference between and NA and NB 5 speed. My buddy said he checked his MSM VIN, which confirmed it was 5 speed. When two potentially popped up in two days, I had to post.
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Your buddy is either pulling your leg or doesn't know how to check a vin.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 1563919)
Highly likely with this car, although I can't tell the difference between and NA and NB 5 speed. My buddy said he checked his MSM VIN, which confirmed it was 5 speed. When two potentially popped up in two days, I had to post.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...943b839bf1.jpg While NB transmissions have it more encased; https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...21f618559e.jpg The NB 5sp boxes have a lockout that prevents going from 5th directly into reverse; apparently on earlier cars drivers were ruining the reverse gear hubs by nicking the synchro teeth on aggressive 5-4 shifts, so they added a lockout on the NBs. That square access panel in front of the shifter on the NB box is to access the lockout mechanism (and contrary to some info out there it is not an optional location for the shifter) |
Originally Posted by themonkeyman
(Post 1563945)
The largest external difference is the shifter. NA's have a somewhat exposed shift actuator rod;
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...943b839bf1.jpg While NB transmissions have it more encased; https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...21f618559e.jpg The NB 5sp boxes have a lockout that prevents going from 5th directly into reverse; apparently on earlier cars drivers were ruining the reverse gear hubs by nicking the synchro teeth on aggressive 5-4 shifts, so they added a lockout on the NBs. That square access panel in front of the shifter on the NB box is to access the lockout mechanism (and contrary to some info out there it is not an optional location for the shifter) 56 |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1563940)
Your buddy is either pulling your leg or doesn't know how to check a vin.
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110% not buying it. :giggle:
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1563979)
110% not buying it. :giggle:
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There's a VIN tag on the transmission, seems like it should be simple to compare that to the one on the car?
--Ian |
Originally Posted by codrus
(Post 1563984)
There's a VIN tag on the transmission, seems like it should be simple to compare that to the one on the car?
--Ian |
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