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GOD DAMN!...that looks like it sucked! Their bumper gave them bad advice....
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Originally Posted by Cspence
(Post 473999)
GOD DAMN!...that looks like it sucked!
Oh, and notice the roll bar poking through the bottom of the inverted car. |
wtf would you be out there like that with no cage or at least a bar?
edit: wtf kind of bar is that and htf did it come thru the bottom of the car. Somebody failed big time. __________________ Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote |
Originally Posted by levnubhin
(Post 474001)
wtf would you be out there like that with no cage or at least a bar?
This shit makes me want to build a proper racecar. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 474003)
I have no clue if those guys is still alive or not.
Very sad. You know it happens at the track...and that there's the risk...but it hurts to see. I actually stopped watching racing for a few years as a kid after Senna died. Hit me kinda hard at 12. I hope this guy and his passenger made it. He should have been listening to the instructor. |
Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 474007)
ftfy
Very sad. You know it happens at the track...and that there's the risk...but it hurts to see. I actually stopped watching racing for a few years as a kid after Senna died. Hit me kinda hard at 12. I hope this guy and his passenger made it. He should have been listening to the instructor. The first few times you go through there, it really is tough to commit, but after you see stuff like this its much easier to leave the pedal on teh firewall. |
did that guy not die?
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It looks like a dude in a blue and yellow suit is chillin outside the carnin some of thos pics, so maybe he did live
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Damn, that's scary how the bolt in cage failed.
According to this link, the driver and passenger were both ok. Mustang vs. Tire Wall: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!! - RacersWeb.com - The Racer's Forum C |
I have no Idea how they were ok. Maybe they slid through the seatbelt which means no harness.
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Did they escape through the trunk?
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 474123)
Did they escape through the trunk?
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Wall needs moar tires.
I kept scrolling through thinking, "that will leave a mark". When I saw upside down I thought "oh crap, really bad day". I do hope that they both made it. |
wow, way to fail at rollcage building, apparently the bottoms of the bar were not welded to plates, and apprently he just had a bar and not a cage...
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Originally Posted by Stein
(Post 474191)
Wall needs moar tires.
I kept scrolling through thinking, "that will leave a mark". When I saw upside down I thought "oh crap, really bad day". I do hope that they both made it. Chris |
That track has been hit with "emininent domian" or whatever 3-times according to the current owners for development because its right-next to a major highway. According to the Connie who runs the track, the environmental fees to remove the 3,000,000+ tires is too much so that track will basically go nowhere. You've never seen more tires in your life. They have tires 2-deep at the least, all around the track, on both sides.
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Reminds me of the carnage found at turn #12 at Road Atlanta.
Rob can attest to the balls needed to take turn 12 properly.... |
i think hustler maxed out his photobucket for the month, haha
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Pictarz not working. #8 at Hallett is a turn for men, and men only.
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
(Post 474303)
i think hustler maxed out his photobucket for the month, haha
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There used to be a billboard frame off in the distance one could use as a marker when going CCW through #8. Is it still there?
BTW, I doubt with a hard dog style bolt-in setup that it would punch through the floor of a Miata like that. On the Mustang, it looks like it is just a regular large expanse of floor pan that the hoop is attached to, judging by the upside down picture. On the Miata, it is at the intersection of the vertical section of body right behind the seats, and the horizontal pan that forms the trunk undertray. If you have installed a Hard Dog you know what I mean. That should result in a very strong structure, especially since the vertical section would be loaded in-plane (mostly), and not out-of-plane (like the Mustang floor). Plus, the Miata is much lighter of course. Glad the driver and passenger made it out OK. It is amazing they were not hurt. The roof crushing and the tearing out of the roll bar must have absorbed a tremendous amount of the energy. |
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That thing had a roll bar and still pancaked?!? Holy crap. I'd be showing that photo to every damn forum along with the name of the roll bar manufacturer. Major fail. They should never sell another one.
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I have seen a old Formula 3000 car hit that wall. He didn't jump it though.
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the fucking roll bar punched through the floor. lolz.
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Originally Posted by cueball1
(Post 474391)
That thing had a roll bar and still pancaked?!? Holy crap. I'd be showing that photo to every damn forum along with the name of the roll bar manufacturer. Major fail. They should never sell another one.
The force of swinging a 3400lb vehicle about it's nose is much more than you could possibly design a standalone bar place 10ft out from the axis of rotation to withstand. At that point you should be considering a full cage to spread some of that impact force. On the fence: I don't think it played much of a roll in flipping the car...they were already digging in for a pole-vault maneuver. Good to know those guys are ok...can't believe it...but happy nonetheless. |
Like I alluded to, the roll bar clearly should have had larger base plates (doublers) to distribute the force over a larger floor pan area and/or been tied into the frame (unibody) rails. No reason why it should have failed just because it was a 'flip' and not a 'roll'. Rolls can get pretty violent as well. But I agree a full cage would be even better. The load would have been distributed over twice as much area, all else being equal.
I think the fence/tire wall induced the airborne-ness that created the nose down orientation resulting in the nose plant. |
The Boss Frog Double brace "saddles" the transmisstion tunnel, behind the seats up top and on the outer angle al-la Hard Dog.
http://www.teammiata.com/libs/Boss_F...ssembly-tn.jpg I don't even want to know what it would take to make that punch through the bottom of my car. |
Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
(Post 474421)
I don't even want to know what it would take to make that punch through the bottom of my car.
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I can't imagine the compresson on the driver during a crash like that, I'd have never expected a mustang to flatten out like that with a rollbar. I'll be showing this to my friend that welded in his own rollbar and did a terrible job with a buzzbox mig.
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