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caideN 06-15-2010 09:40 PM

Am I Fu*ked???? Shavings into manifold?
 
Ok, so I've been working on the miata the pass couple of days. I tapped the IAT sensor into the intercooler, I used grease/lube on the drill bits, so I assumed that not much of the metal shavings went into the intercooler.

I left the car alone and didn't drive it for a couple of days and totally forgot that I might have had shavings in the intercooler so I just screwed the IAT sensor in and ran the car. The car choked and wouldn't run so I tried again, it ran but the whole engine bay was shaking wild. It only rumbles on idle and WB say it's running full lean at some points 16s during idle, but when I rev a little the rumble stops and WB is back to the 14-15. The shavings most likely got sucked into the intake manifold. Uhhh, what should I do from here? :vash:

Damn I'm retarded :loser:

Braineack 06-15-2010 09:42 PM

aluminum is soft, I highly doubt it damaged anything. I've eaten worse.

caideN 06-15-2010 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 589046)
aluminum is soft, I highly doubt it damaged anything. I've eaten worse.

So you're saying the rumble will stop if I just leave it on idle for a bit?

Sparetire 06-15-2010 09:46 PM

No. My guess is that the idle is due to soemthing else. Vac leak, tables, something.

caideN 06-15-2010 09:48 PM

I'm a bit relieved now. I'll check later, thanks.

shuiend 06-15-2010 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 589046)
aluminum is soft, I highly doubt it damaged anything. I've eaten worse.

I mean you only sent what 2 screws from your throttle body threw your engine.

Braineack 06-15-2010 10:37 PM

only one screw and it was brass and got flattened.

jeff_man 06-15-2010 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 589084)
only one screw and it was brass and got flattened.

pics?

nvm, search ftw

y8s 06-15-2010 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by caideN (Post 589045)
It only rumbles on idle and WB say it's running full lean at some points 16s during idle


you say it runs funny when your wideband pegs to full lean? huh.

lordrigamus 06-16-2010 01:21 AM

Did you make any boost? Maybe your signal line got plugged.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 06-16-2010 01:26 AM

If youre not a pussy you can make the car idle lean.
16s are not too lean for the car to idle well.

Every time someone posts "My idle is rock solid at 13.0:1", God kills a kitten.
Think before you tune.

Braineack 06-16-2010 01:38 AM

i wish i was a badass tuner like you. cause 13:1 is rock solid.

lordrigamus 06-16-2010 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 589149)
i wish i was a badass tuner like you. Cause 13:1 is rock solid.

+1

Full_Tilt_Boogie 06-16-2010 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 589149)
i wish i was a badass tuner like you. cause 13:1 is rock solid.

look what youve done to the kittens

Braineack 06-16-2010 01:50 AM

hell, I even have an Idle VE table and things get twitchy above 14.4:1 or so.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...-1/idle_ve.jpg


It's cheating if you have stock injectors, an exhaust leak that's giving false AFR readings, or a poorly calibrated sensor.

lordrigamus 06-16-2010 01:54 AM

Mine doesn't like a lean idle either. Any less than 13.5 and she starts popping.

Braineack 06-16-2010 01:59 AM

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2.../lean_idle.png

;)

Full_Tilt_Boogie 06-16-2010 02:31 AM

I never said it was easy

southernmx5 06-16-2010 02:46 AM

your mom is easy? :P

Anyway to the OP aluminum shavings will melt in a heartbeat inside the engine. Iron shavings would be a different story.

cardriverx 06-16-2010 02:48 AM

Sounds like your running on 3 cylinders. check coils / you ignition system.

y8s 06-16-2010 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 589146)
If youre not a pussy you can make the car idle lean.
16s are not too lean for the car to idle well.

Every time someone posts "My idle is rock solid at 13.0:1", God kills a kitten.
Think before you tune.

so what you're saying is that idling at 16:1 is a GOOD IDEA?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 06-16-2010 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 589343)
so what you're saying is that idling at 16:1 is a GOOD IDEA?

yes, its a good way to save gas. 16 to one is a bit on the high side, but 15.5 is about what I would aim for. (usually stoich on the initial tune)
The engine is under an extremely small amount of load, and a lean AFR will not cause any detonation or overheating or anything.

The only reason I would go any richer would be if the idle was hard to get stable, but thats usually not the case. It just takes well tuned fuels, ignition, and IAC settings.
You cant just lean it out and expect it to idle right

chicksdigmiatas 06-16-2010 01:57 PM

I idle at low 15's but i assure you that little aluminum turdlets didn't mess up your engine. Wait, you just put in an IAT? Did you just eliminate the maf? Did you reload firmware?

caideN 06-16-2010 02:00 PM

I didn't install shizzles yet, just tapped the iat sensor. Hopefully getting injectors, tps and ms installed tonight.

cardriverx 06-16-2010 02:01 PM

Get a video of it running.

caideN 06-16-2010 02:10 PM

Just went out and it runs fine now...:dunno:

chicksdigmiatas 06-16-2010 02:30 PM

Problem solved.

cardriverx 06-16-2010 07:14 PM

your welcome.

But seriously, if its a loose connection it will come back. I didn't do the pins right on one of the connectors for my coils, and every once of a while I would be driving and all of a sudden I was running on 3 cylinders. It was not safe lol.


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