Originally Posted by carbon
(Post 1207117)
Haha I could have sworn I saw you driving on Highway 6 in College Station... Saw a RV thing towing a car with some wheels poking out underneath the car cover.
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Weighed the car this am. Looks like the cage added just under 60 lbs...better than budgeted. Total weight here is with hardtop but w/o seat, dash/cluster or HVAC. Our spreadsheet shows that adding those will mostly be cancelled out by other weight savings items...though aero will cost us. Current estimate is 2070 for Phase 1 build.
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Painted the cage in advance of the lexan windshield install.
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How much weight saving with windshield?
Any downsides? Scratching, safety, or water tightness? |
Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
(Post 1210316)
How much weight saving with windshield?
Any downsides? Scratching, safety, or water tightness? |
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Update time...
10 lb Kirkey seat is in. We bought this one two sizes too big and will be filling with Space Shuttle foam for easier transits. This will remove one more item from our daily prep ritual that we did for the CRX (race seat in/out). Seat back brace is a modified Kirkey piece bolted to a weld-on ButlerBuilt roll bar attachment. The latter also serves to locate the harness shoulder belts. Attachment 184266 Attachment 184267 |
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Dash swap mostly done. Massive weight savings. Targa Miata inspired "half dash" using a salvaged NA dash we got for free. Had to fix a bunch of cracks (epoxy + roofing flashing), but it's pretty solid now. Meter hood crumbled in my hands, though. So bought a new one. Will finish the center section once I put the HVAC parts back in (which is waiting on the new intake manifold).
Oh, and those aluminum spacers are lowering blocks for the steering column since the seat is on the floor. Attachment 184265 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426188429 |
nice seat bracing. Could you share some pics of how you mounted the kirky seat to the floor please.
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Originally Posted by cyotani
(Post 1214337)
nice seat bracing. Could you share some pics of how you mounted the kirky seat to the floor please.
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Behold the new hotness...
These are the latest generation, highest option SuperMiata XIDA's by 949Racing, built to spec by Hanchey Vehicle Tech using Tractive components. They are 3-way remotes with Active Controlled Electronics (ACE). Read about them here: Hanchey Vehicle Tech and here: Hanchey Vehicle Tech. Big thanks to Emilio at 949 and Brian at HVT for making this happen. Attachment 184254 |
Hhhhnnnnn :drool:
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Do I dare to ask how much those cost?
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Originally Posted by cyotani
(Post 1214704)
Do I dare to ask how much those cost?
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The current top-shelf ones on the website are $4700 double adjustables, and there's a $1300 option to get them to triple-adjustables. These have more techy goodies aside from that as well, so consider $6k as a starting point...
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oh wow :drool:
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Active damping control ... nnnnggggggg ...
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Can you comment on what parameters the little black box uses for dampening adjustments? I see some orientation arrows on the label that leads me to think there are accelerometers present. Also are there any user adjustable parameters?
I'm not expecting anything as advanced as GM's magnaride system but just the ability to up compression at the front and rebound at the back under braking would be HUGE. |
Originally Posted by Bronson M
(Post 1215315)
Can you comment on what parameters the little black box uses for dampening adjustments? I see some orientation arrows on the label that leads me to think there are accelerometers present. Also are there any user adjustable parameters?
https://www.miataturbo.net/suspensio...6/#post1169752, post #26 especially. |
Originally Posted by Bronson M
(Post 1215315)
Can you comment on what parameters the little black box uses for dampening adjustments? I see some orientation arrows on the label that leads me to think there are accelerometers present. Also are there any user adjustable parameters?
I'm not expecting anything as advanced as GM's magnaride system but just the ability to up compression at the front and rebound at the back under braking would be HUGE. |
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Braking news!
The latest SuperMiata (949 Racing) front BBK with 11.75x.81 directional rotors, Wilwood 4-pot Dynalites, and V8 Roadsters hats & brackets. Finished off with braided lines, Carbotech pads and ARP extended studs. only 2lbs pounds lighter, but LOTS more thermal capacity. This is very similar to what we successfully ran on the CRX. Working on the rears now... Attachment 184246 |
Awesome car!
How is the clearance between your tie-rod ends and the brake rotor? I had a clearance issue there with the 949 BBK and no-one seems to know why. |
Originally Posted by dcamp2
(Post 1215834)
Awesome car!
How is the clearance between your tie-rod ends and the brake rotor? I had a clearance issue there with the 949 BBK and no-one seems to know why. Did you have the LE extended tie-rod end (correct bump steer on lowered 93 LE)? I could see that making it worse. |
Originally Posted by dcamp2
(Post 1215834)
Awesome car!
How is the clearance between your tie-rod ends and the brake rotor? I had a clearance issue there with the 949 BBK and no-one seems to know why. |
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Not happy with the rears at the moment. These are base calipers spaced out to Sport dimensions using the MTuned bracket that 949 carries. Rotor is a two-piece DBA setup that Goodwin carries, and has same dimensions as Sport. It weighs the same as the non-Sport one-piece, so I suspect it is about 2 lbs lighter per side than the Sport one-piece.
The part I am unhappy with is the dangling of the parking brake. These brackets rotate the caliper CCW abou 15 degrees and the ebrake gets pointed down quite a bit. In fact, the instructions say to loosen the chassis mount for the cable when installing. I had to leave it unattached. I haven't done the other side yet, as I am contemplating the situation. If I bend the bracket that attaches the cable to the caliper, it distorts the pull angle. Could probably get away with a little, but it needs a fair bit. I have to believe others have solved this. In addition, the V4 Goodwin kits have similar rear brackets, so I'd expect those folks to also have dealt with this. Anybody? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426680907 |
Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1216054)
Anybody?
As usual I have done nothing about it, few things stand up enough on track to catch them. 3-4 years running like this so far (I don't remember when i changed rotor size in the rear). But as everything can be a bit different, are your cables hanging below the lowest point? |
I would just buy the FM LBBK for the rear (powerlite calipers modded to have e-brake) if you want to drop more weight, just get their sport kit and it'll work with the sport rotors.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1216076)
I would just buy the FM LBBK for the rear (powerlite calipers modded to have e-brake) if you want to drop more weight, just get their sport kit and it'll work with the sport rotors.
Not the piston bore ratio I want. If I was to go that route, I'd just swap to larger-bore OE rear sport calipers and ditch the brackets. Further, the FM ebrake is very light duty. I use my ebrake heavily when towing. Stabilizes the car quite well. I can always tell when I have forgotten to put it on. |
Interesting on the towing part. Yeah their ebrake is very light duty and thats really the only solution unfortunately. I've tried to come up with a way to improve on it and nothing else fits.
You dont like piston ratio between the front and back even with the 11.75 fronts? Math I did makes it seem better than the stock caliper because you wont need to use as skewed of a pad mu to get the right brake balance when trail braking. The sport would have been my caliper pick if the FM LBBK didnt exist if the sport caliper had the same brake pad support as the normal caliper. |
Originally Posted by NiklasFalk
(Post 1216060)
I have the same situation with the MTuned brackets, the handbrake cables are very close to the lowest point (maybe 1/2" above).
As usual I have done nothing about it, few things stand up enough on track to catch them. 3-4 years running like this so far (I don't remember when i changed rotor size in the rear). But as everything can be a bit different, are your cables hanging below the lowest point? I think I will go ahead and do the other side...and hope. |
Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1215953)
No problems here. A little under .25" clearance to the tie-rod.
Did you have the LE extended tie-rod end (correct bump steer on lowered 93 LE)? I could see that making it worse.
Originally Posted by OneTwo
(Post 1216048)
I have the same issue on my 96. I'm swapping in NB knuckles to see if I can fix it that way. Seems like the NBs aren't having any clearance issues.
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Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1216054)
Not happy with the rears at the moment. These are base calipers spaced out to Sport dimensions using the MTuned bracket that 949 carries. Rotor is a two-piece DBA setup that Goodwin carries, and has same dimensions as Sport. It weighs the same as the non-Sport one-piece, so I suspect it is about 2 lbs lighter per side than the Sport one-piece.
The part I am unhappy with is the dangling of the parking brake. These brackets rotate the caliper CCW abou 15 degrees and the ebrake gets pointed down quite a bit. In fact, the instructions say to loosen the chassis mount for the cable when installing. I had to leave it unattached. I haven't done the other side yet, as I am contemplating the situation. If I bend the bracket that attaches the cable to the caliper, it distorts the pull angle. Could probably get away with a little, but it needs a fair bit. I have to believe others have solved this. In addition, the V4 Goodwin kits have similar rear brackets, so I'd expect those folks to also have dealt with this. Anybody? |
Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1216221)
An alternate solution is using OEM Sport carriers with either sport calipers (1.375" piston area) or 94-00 calipers (1.25" piston area). I believe this is what we did on the few cars we ran Sport rear rotors on. In restrospect, that might have been a simpler solution for you.
So you are saying that either caliper will fit on either knuckle...and that the knuckle is the determining factor on the rotor spacing? |
Wow I never noticed that. BUT thats the part numbers for the assembiles. If you look further down to just the hub there's only a different part number for with or without abs. So the difference is almost certainly just the diameter of the brake shield.
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Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1216236)
Just researched this via parts fiche. Looks like the knuckles are indeed different between Sport and non-Sport. (NO75-26-28X/29X vs NA75-26-28X/29X)
So you are saying that either caliper will fit on either knuckle...and that the knuckle is the determining factor on the rotor spacing? Sport pads if you put NA8 calipers on Sport carriers. M-Tuned adapters, NA8 or NA8 depending on carrier used. The caliper carrier, or bracket if you will, is different between Sport and standard, but the lug spacing and offset are the same. The pin centers, diameter and offset on the two calipers are the same. Ergo, one can fit Sport carriers (brackets) with non Sport calipers onto non Sport knuckles. We have tried a bunch of different combos. Running 11.75's up front with Sport rear rotors and minimal aero, NA8 calipers. With huge downforce, porky car (V8), or 275's, the bigger piston Sport caliper starts to give better balance. No idea why the Sport knuckle has a different P/N than the base. There was only what, one year of overlap AFAIK. |
Sport calipers can be made to work on non sport brackets as well. Just a little grinding on the backing plate of the pad to clearance the caliper. It is better to use the larger rotor, but it gives more options.
I did this mod as I run RPF1's, and needed more rear bias. |
^Same here.
I'm running the rear sport caliper on the non-sport carrier. Didn't like the stock bias in the rain, so I upped the rear pistons. Stops faster in the dry (I measured back to back) and wet, and is much safer. I still have the carriers for the sport rotors, should I choose to go that path in the future, but currently, it's nicely balanced, and does the job. |
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Quick release passenger seat mount is now complete. Slider is gone so seat sits 1.5" lower. Rear hooks on pins, front gets bolted. Might change that to studs. Goes in/out fast.
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Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1204025)
To plumb the fuel line, we disconnected the first two mounting brackets and then carefully bent it around to the driver's side of the tunnel. We then added -6 AN hard-line fittings (5/16") to both the fuel line and injector rail, and connected those two with push-lock hose and fittings. That gives a little bit of slop for engine movement. Here's a good video on how to do this: http://www.anplumbing.com/page/16
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
(Post 1217513)
Anyone know what happened to the anplumbing video?
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Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1217517)
Call 'em and ask?
Anyone happen to copy all his videos? |
Originally Posted by AndyHollis
(Post 1216080)
Further, the FM ebrake is very light duty. I use my ebrake heavily when towing. Stabilizes the car quite well. I can always tell when I have forgotten to put it on.
But no, I never did find a good solution for the parking brake cable routing with the Goodwin rear brackets. I ran them for ~ 40K miles, never had any *problems* with it, but was never really happy with it. --Ian |
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Suspension work.
Nothing radical here...just the usual Racing Beat 1.125" hollow front bar, and 14mm Mazdaspeed Miata rear, both set in urethane that has been bluprinted (shave the flat side even with the saddle bracket). SuperMiata 949Racing end links (these things are pimp) and RB "blocks and bolts" complete the setup. Ran the same stuff on my STS Miata for years with good results. Attachment 184238 |
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Started mounting up the electronic coilovers and ran into a snag on the rears. This is at about mid-travel.
Attachment 184236 Attachment 184237 Much head-scratching around the world (HVT and Tractive in Holland) w/o any easy/quick solutions. After sleeping on it, I had a ureka moment: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1427305572 Not cheap, but quite possible easy. Called Shandelle at V8 Roadsters and he had one set left on the shelf. Mine! |
An opportunity to replace a little grinding work with shiny new parts can't be missed? :D
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Originally Posted by NiklasFalk
(Post 1218454)
An opportunity to replace a little grinding work with shiny new parts can't be missed? :D
Seriously, I get nervous grinding away reliefs in major suspension mounting points. Would not want that failing at a high rate of speed. |
It doesn't need to be a Fea hack job, but time and peace of mind (be able to blame someone else) are worth something too.
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Suspension is all on the car now. Locating/securing the shock reservoirs was a challenge as the hose end banjos were clocked in an unfortunate setup, so my original measurements were a fail. I'll blueprint all that stuff later when I have more time. Today, it comes back off the jackstands to set ride heights, corner balance and garage alignment. Also need to wire up the electronics. Pics are at full droop.
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Looking good!
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I am assuming these are similar to Xidas. Then why no helpers? How long are the springs?
--Ferdi |
Originally Posted by ftjandra
(Post 1220123)
I am assuming these are similar to Xidas. Then why no helpers? How long are the springs?
--Ferdi |
Helpers are unnecessary if the spring is still seated at full droop.
e: Having said that, the fronts are clearly unseated. Why no helpers? |
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1220164)
Helpers are unnecessary if the spring is still seated at full droop.
e: Having said that, the fronts are clearly unseated. Why no helpers? Update: Car is back on the ground with ride heights set (no corner weights yet) and garage alignment. Drove around the block and nothing fell off. So it should be ready to race, right? https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1427886515 |
Looks GREAT. What height is the car at from the pinch welds?
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Originally Posted by K Miata
(Post 1220649)
Looks GREAT. What height is the car at from the pinch welds?
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More updates coming...been off testing tires for GRM.
Harness is in. Schroth Profi II HANS. 2/3" hybrid across the HANS, 2" lap for better fit, 6-point subs to better hold the pelvis down (given the rollbar proximity). Had my cagebuilder do finish welding on the backing plates (I won't weld my own safety gear). Lots of fiddling involved with the sub straps, as the seat is already on the floor. Had to enlarge the slots quite a bit to create clearance. Attachment 184204 Attachment 184205 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1428361834 |
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Track debut for the One Lap Miata today...purposely did not put track pads on it so I'd keep speeds in check. Stole the SSR/Cont DW's off the Mazda 2 since all the other wheels have GRM test tires on them at the moment.
The car is a joy to drive. The electronic shocks are truly incredible, though I am still working on track setup. You can dial them down to Buick ride quality on the street (seriously), yet nicely taught on track. Haven't even begun to work on front/rear bias yet. I need to watch my corner entries as I am so used to the mid-corner push that catches you with FWD. Much left to do (including swapping in the race motor) but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. Attachment 184195 |
Car looks so clean and unassuming. Love it.
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Moar camberz added.
ISC offset bushings on arms we had shipped there from Treasure Coast. We'll run 2.5 for One Lap due to the street miles (tire wear) and 3.5 for track-only events. Attachment 184188 Attachment 184189 |
I'm definitely interested in more camber, but scuttlebutt is that the ISC's conflict with 15x9s (see https://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep...ussions-83267/). Are you using spacers or running more narrow rims? Or maybe it's not an issue at all?
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1216253)
The carriers and calipers are interchangeable. Pad is determined by the carrier used, not the caliper.
Sport pads if you put NA8 calipers on Sport carriers. M-Tuned adapters, NA8 or NA8 depending on carrier used. The caliper carrier, or bracket if you will, is different between Sport and standard, but the lug spacing and offset are the same. The pin centers, diameter and offset on the two calipers are the same. Ergo, one can fit Sport carriers (brackets) with non Sport calipers onto non Sport knuckles. We have tried a bunch of different combos. Running 11.75's up front with Sport rear rotors and minimal aero, NA8 calipers. With huge downforce, porky car (V8), or 275's, the bigger piston Sport caliper starts to give better balance. No idea why the Sport knuckle has a different P/N than the base. There was only what, one year of overlap AFAIK. |
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