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AndyHollis 02-18-2015 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by carbon (Post 1207117)
Haha I could have sworn I saw you driving on Highway 6 in College Station... Saw a RV thing towing a car with some wheels poking out underneath the car cover.

Do you tow it with a car cover on it?

Was not me. This car has never been on Hwy 6, towed or otherwise. Don't own a car cover, either.

AndyHollis 02-18-2015 09:03 AM

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Weighed the car this am. Looks like the cage added just under 60 lbs...better than budgeted. Total weight here is with hardtop but w/o seat, dash/cluster or HVAC. Our spreadsheet shows that adding those will mostly be cancelled out by other weight savings items...though aero will cost us. Current estimate is 2070 for Phase 1 build.

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AndyHollis 02-22-2015 05:48 PM

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Painted the cage in advance of the lexan windshield install.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1424645295

alpinaturbo 02-26-2015 09:00 PM

How much weight saving with windshield?
Any downsides?
Scratching, safety, or water tightness?

asmasm 02-26-2015 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by alpinaturbo (Post 1210316)
How much weight saving with windshield?
Any downsides?
Scratching, safety, or water tightness?

Miata Windshield

AndyHollis 03-12-2015 03:25 PM

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Update time...

10 lb Kirkey seat is in. We bought this one two sizes too big and will be filling with Space Shuttle foam for easier transits. This will remove one more item from our daily prep ritual that we did for the CRX (race seat in/out). Seat back brace is a modified Kirkey piece bolted to a weld-on ButlerBuilt roll bar attachment. The latter also serves to locate the harness shoulder belts.

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AndyHollis 03-12-2015 03:27 PM

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Dash swap mostly done. Massive weight savings. Targa Miata inspired "half dash" using a salvaged NA dash we got for free. Had to fix a bunch of cracks (epoxy + roofing flashing), but it's pretty solid now. Meter hood crumbled in my hands, though. So bought a new one. Will finish the center section once I put the HVAC parts back in (which is waiting on the new intake manifold).

Oh, and those aluminum spacers are lowering blocks for the steering column since the seat is on the floor.

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426188429

cyotani 03-12-2015 03:31 PM

nice seat bracing. Could you share some pics of how you mounted the kirky seat to the floor please.

AndyHollis 03-12-2015 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1214337)
nice seat bracing. Could you share some pics of how you mounted the kirky seat to the floor please.

Soon, but not yet. While strong, they are temporary, heavy and ugly (perf steel angle from HDM). Will be replaced by better stuff once I verify seating position.

AndyHollis 03-13-2015 05:09 PM

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Behold the new hotness...

These are the latest generation, highest option SuperMiata XIDA's by 949Racing, built to spec by Hanchey Vehicle Tech using Tractive components. They are 3-way remotes with Active Controlled Electronics (ACE). Read about them here: Hanchey Vehicle Tech and here: Hanchey Vehicle Tech.

Big thanks to Emilio at 949 and Brian at HVT for making this happen.

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NiklasFalk 03-13-2015 05:29 PM

Hhhhnnnnn :drool:

cyotani 03-13-2015 05:32 PM

Do I dare to ask how much those cost?

AndyHollis 03-13-2015 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1214704)
Do I dare to ask how much those cost?

That's best answered by Emilio. There is sponsorship at work in my purchase, in exchange for engineering feedback and promotional consideration . These are essentially prototypes , which is why they are not yet listed on the 949 site.

turbofan 03-13-2015 06:49 PM

The current top-shelf ones on the website are $4700 double adjustables, and there's a $1300 option to get them to triple-adjustables. These have more techy goodies aside from that as well, so consider $6k as a starting point...

18psi 03-13-2015 07:01 PM

oh wow :drool:

Mobius 03-14-2015 02:32 AM

Active damping control ... nnnnggggggg ...

Bronson M 03-16-2015 09:11 AM

Can you comment on what parameters the little black box uses for dampening adjustments? I see some orientation arrows on the label that leads me to think there are accelerometers present. Also are there any user adjustable parameters?

I'm not expecting anything as advanced as GM's magnaride system but just the ability to up compression at the front and rebound at the back under braking would be HUGE.

NiklasFalk 03-16-2015 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1215315)
Can you comment on what parameters the little black box uses for dampening adjustments? I see some orientation arrows on the label that leads me to think there are accelerometers present. Also are there any user adjustable parameters?

Some info in this thread
https://www.miataturbo.net/suspensio...6/#post1169752, post #26 especially.

AndyHollis 03-17-2015 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1215315)
Can you comment on what parameters the little black box uses for dampening adjustments? I see some orientation arrows on the label that leads me to think there are accelerometers present. Also are there any user adjustable parameters?

I'm not expecting anything as advanced as GM's magnaride system but just the ability to up compression at the front and rebound at the back under braking would be HUGE.

To be honest, I am still coming up to speed on it myself. Rather than say what I *think* is going on, I'd rather report back when I am certain. At the moment, they are back in the box awaiting a couple of attachment pieces.

AndyHollis 03-17-2015 01:17 PM

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Braking news!

The latest SuperMiata (949 Racing) front BBK with 11.75x.81 directional rotors, Wilwood 4-pot Dynalites, and V8 Roadsters hats & brackets. Finished off with braided lines, Carbotech pads and ARP extended studs. only 2lbs pounds lighter, but LOTS more thermal capacity. This is very similar to what we successfully ran on the CRX.

Working on the rears now...

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dcamp2 03-17-2015 05:43 PM

Awesome car!

How is the clearance between your tie-rod ends and the brake rotor? I had a clearance issue there with the 949 BBK and no-one seems to know why.

AndyHollis 03-17-2015 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by dcamp2 (Post 1215834)
Awesome car!

How is the clearance between your tie-rod ends and the brake rotor? I had a clearance issue there with the 949 BBK and no-one seems to know why.

No problems here. A little under .25" clearance to the tie-rod.

Did you have the LE extended tie-rod end (correct bump steer on lowered 93 LE)? I could see that making it worse.

OneTwo 03-18-2015 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by dcamp2 (Post 1215834)
Awesome car!

How is the clearance between your tie-rod ends and the brake rotor? I had a clearance issue there with the 949 BBK and no-one seems to know why.

I have the same issue on my 96. I'm swapping in NB knuckles to see if I can fix it that way. Seems like the NBs aren't having any clearance issues.

AndyHollis 03-18-2015 08:15 AM

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Not happy with the rears at the moment. These are base calipers spaced out to Sport dimensions using the MTuned bracket that 949 carries. Rotor is a two-piece DBA setup that Goodwin carries, and has same dimensions as Sport. It weighs the same as the non-Sport one-piece, so I suspect it is about 2 lbs lighter per side than the Sport one-piece.

The part I am unhappy with is the dangling of the parking brake. These brackets rotate the caliper CCW abou 15 degrees and the ebrake gets pointed down quite a bit. In fact, the instructions say to loosen the chassis mount for the cable when installing. I had to leave it unattached.

I haven't done the other side yet, as I am contemplating the situation. If I bend the bracket that attaches the cable to the caliper, it distorts the pull angle. Could probably get away with a little, but it needs a fair bit.

I have to believe others have solved this. In addition, the V4 Goodwin kits have similar rear brackets, so I'd expect those folks to also have dealt with this.

Anybody?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426680907

NiklasFalk 03-18-2015 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1216054)
Anybody?

I have the same situation with the MTuned brackets, the handbrake cables are very close to the lowest point (maybe 1/2" above).
As usual I have done nothing about it, few things stand up enough on track to catch them. 3-4 years running like this so far (I don't remember when i changed rotor size in the rear).

But as everything can be a bit different, are your cables hanging below the lowest point?

Leafy 03-18-2015 08:57 AM

I would just buy the FM LBBK for the rear (powerlite calipers modded to have e-brake) if you want to drop more weight, just get their sport kit and it'll work with the sport rotors.

AndyHollis 03-18-2015 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1216076)
I would just buy the FM LBBK for the rear (powerlite calipers modded to have e-brake) if you want to drop more weight, just get their sport kit and it'll work with the sport rotors.

Already considered and rejected in the planning stage.

Not the piston bore ratio I want. If I was to go that route, I'd just swap to larger-bore OE rear sport calipers and ditch the brackets.

Further, the FM ebrake is very light duty. I use my ebrake heavily when towing. Stabilizes the car quite well. I can always tell when I have forgotten to put it on.

Leafy 03-18-2015 09:08 AM

Interesting on the towing part. Yeah their ebrake is very light duty and thats really the only solution unfortunately. I've tried to come up with a way to improve on it and nothing else fits.

You dont like piston ratio between the front and back even with the 11.75 fronts? Math I did makes it seem better than the stock caliper because you wont need to use as skewed of a pad mu to get the right brake balance when trail braking. The sport would have been my caliper pick if the FM LBBK didnt exist if the sport caliper had the same brake pad support as the normal caliper.

AndyHollis 03-18-2015 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by NiklasFalk (Post 1216060)
I have the same situation with the MTuned brackets, the handbrake cables are very close to the lowest point (maybe 1/2" above).
As usual I have done nothing about it, few things stand up enough on track to catch them. 3-4 years running like this so far (I don't remember when i changed rotor size in the rear).

But as everything can be a bit different, are your cables hanging below the lowest point?

At the moment, yes. But the car is still on stock suspension and that pic was taken at full droop. Doing some rough measurements this am, it appears that I'll be knocking a good 3" off the droop travel when the XIDA's go on, so the cable will likely tuck up a lot better.

I think I will go ahead and do the other side...and hope.

dcamp2 03-18-2015 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1215953)
No problems here. A little under .25" clearance to the tie-rod.

Did you have the LE extended tie-rod end (correct bump steer on lowered 93 LE)? I could see that making it worse.

I'm on stock 97 tie rod ends. Make sure that .25 clearance doesn't get worse as the suspension compresses- that's what got me... Looked fine up in the air, scraped up the rotors under cornering and bumps.


Originally Posted by OneTwo (Post 1216048)
I have the same issue on my 96. I'm swapping in NB knuckles to see if I can fix it that way. Seems like the NBs aren't having any clearance issues.

Let me know if you figure anything out (without using the grinder ;))

emilio700 03-18-2015 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1216054)
Not happy with the rears at the moment. These are base calipers spaced out to Sport dimensions using the MTuned bracket that 949 carries. Rotor is a two-piece DBA setup that Goodwin carries, and has same dimensions as Sport. It weighs the same as the non-Sport one-piece, so I suspect it is about 2 lbs lighter per side than the Sport one-piece.

The part I am unhappy with is the dangling of the parking brake. These brackets rotate the caliper CCW abou 15 degrees and the ebrake gets pointed down quite a bit. In fact, the instructions say to loosen the chassis mount for the cable when installing. I had to leave it unattached.

I haven't done the other side yet, as I am contemplating the situation. If I bend the bracket that attaches the cable to the caliper, it distorts the pull angle. Could probably get away with a little, but it needs a fair bit.

I have to believe others have solved this. In addition, the V4 Goodwin kits have similar rear brackets, so I'd expect those folks to also have dealt with this.

Anybody?

An alternate solution is using OEM Sport carriers with either sport calipers (1.375" piston area) or 94-00 calipers (1.25" piston area). I believe this is what we did on the few cars we ran Sport rear rotors on. In restrospect, that might have been a simpler solution for you.

AndyHollis 03-18-2015 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1216221)
An alternate solution is using OEM Sport carriers with either sport calipers (1.375" piston area) or 94-00 calipers (1.25" piston area). I believe this is what we did on the few cars we ran Sport rear rotors on. In restrospect, that might have been a simpler solution for you.

Just researched this via parts fiche. Looks like the knuckles are indeed different between Sport and non-Sport. (NO75-26-28X/29X vs NA75-26-28X/29X)

So you are saying that either caliper will fit on either knuckle...and that the knuckle is the determining factor on the rotor spacing?

Leafy 03-18-2015 01:58 PM

Wow I never noticed that. BUT thats the part numbers for the assembiles. If you look further down to just the hub there's only a different part number for with or without abs. So the difference is almost certainly just the diameter of the brake shield.

emilio700 03-18-2015 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1216236)
Just researched this via parts fiche. Looks like the knuckles are indeed different between Sport and non-Sport. (NO75-26-28X/29X vs NA75-26-28X/29X)

So you are saying that either caliper will fit on either knuckle...and that the knuckle is the determining factor on the rotor spacing?

The carriers and calipers are interchangeable. Pad is determined by the carrier used, not the caliper.

Sport pads if you put NA8 calipers on Sport carriers. M-Tuned adapters, NA8 or NA8 depending on carrier used.

The caliper carrier, or bracket if you will, is different between Sport and standard, but the lug spacing and offset are the same. The pin centers, diameter and offset on the two calipers are the same. Ergo, one can fit Sport carriers (brackets) with non Sport calipers onto non Sport knuckles.

We have tried a bunch of different combos. Running 11.75's up front with Sport rear rotors and minimal aero, NA8 calipers. With huge downforce, porky car (V8), or 275's, the bigger piston Sport caliper starts to give better balance.

No idea why the Sport knuckle has a different P/N than the base. There was only what, one year of overlap AFAIK.

Alta_Racer 03-18-2015 02:34 PM

Sport calipers can be made to work on non sport brackets as well. Just a little grinding on the backing plate of the pad to clearance the caliper. It is better to use the larger rotor, but it gives more options.

I did this mod as I run RPF1's, and needed more rear bias.

vintagerust 03-18-2015 06:32 PM

^Same here.
I'm running the rear sport caliper on the non-sport carrier. Didn't like the stock bias in the rain, so I upped the rear pistons. Stops faster in the dry (I measured back to back) and wet, and is much safer.
I still have the carriers for the sport rotors, should I choose to go that path in the future, but currently, it's nicely balanced, and does the job.

AndyHollis 03-21-2015 10:23 PM

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Quick release passenger seat mount is now complete. Slider is gone so seat sits 1.5" lower. Rear hooks on pins, front gets bolted. Might change that to studs. Goes in/out fast.

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426990997

kenzo42 03-23-2015 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1204025)
To plumb the fuel line, we disconnected the first two mounting brackets and then carefully bent it around to the driver's side of the tunnel. We then added -6 AN hard-line fittings (5/16") to both the fuel line and injector rail, and connected those two with push-lock hose and fittings. That gives a little bit of slop for engine movement. Here's a good video on how to do this: http://www.anplumbing.com/page/16

Anyone know what happened to the anplumbing video?

AndyHollis 03-23-2015 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 1217513)
Anyone know what happened to the anplumbing video?

Call 'em and ask?

kenzo42 03-23-2015 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1217517)
Call 'em and ask?

He said they're gone...permanently. Damn it.

Anyone happen to copy all his videos?

codrus 03-24-2015 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by AndyHollis (Post 1216080)
Further, the FM ebrake is very light duty. I use my ebrake heavily when towing. Stabilizes the car quite well. I can always tell when I have forgotten to put it on.

The new NC-based cables are supposed to address the failures of the previous cables, although I haven't gotten around to installing mine yet.

But no, I never did find a good solution for the parking brake cable routing with the Goodwin rear brackets. I ran them for ~ 40K miles, never had any *problems* with it, but was never really happy with it.

--Ian

AndyHollis 03-25-2015 01:45 PM

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Suspension work.

Nothing radical here...just the usual Racing Beat 1.125" hollow front bar, and 14mm Mazdaspeed Miata rear, both set in urethane that has been bluprinted (shave the flat side even with the saddle bracket). SuperMiata 949Racing end links (these things are pimp) and RB "blocks and bolts" complete the setup. Ran the same stuff on my STS Miata for years with good results.

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AndyHollis 03-25-2015 01:46 PM

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Started mounting up the electronic coilovers and ran into a snag on the rears. This is at about mid-travel.

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Much head-scratching around the world (HVT and Tractive in Holland) w/o any easy/quick solutions. After sleeping on it, I had a ureka moment:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1427305572

Not cheap, but quite possible easy.

Called Shandelle at V8 Roadsters and he had one set left on the shelf. Mine!

NiklasFalk 03-25-2015 01:51 PM

An opportunity to replace a little grinding work with shiny new parts can't be missed? :D

AndyHollis 03-25-2015 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by NiklasFalk (Post 1218454)
An opportunity to replace a little grinding work with shiny new parts can't be missed? :D

But think of the weight savings! ;)

Seriously, I get nervous grinding away reliefs in major suspension mounting points. Would not want that failing at a high rate of speed.

NiklasFalk 03-26-2015 07:06 AM

It doesn't need to be a Fea hack job, but time and peace of mind (be able to blame someone else) are worth something too.

AndyHollis 03-31-2015 07:38 AM

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Suspension is all on the car now. Locating/securing the shock reservoirs was a challenge as the hose end banjos were clocked in an unfortunate setup, so my original measurements were a fail. I'll blueprint all that stuff later when I have more time. Today, it comes back off the jackstands to set ride heights, corner balance and garage alignment. Also need to wire up the electronics. Pics are at full droop.

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hornetball 03-31-2015 10:15 AM

Looking good!

ftjandra 03-31-2015 02:03 PM

I am assuming these are similar to Xidas. Then why no helpers? How long are the springs?

--Ferdi

Leafy 03-31-2015 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by ftjandra (Post 1220123)
I am assuming these are similar to Xidas. Then why no helpers? How long are the springs?

--Ferdi

Look 6" long to me.

Savington 03-31-2015 04:07 PM

Helpers are unnecessary if the spring is still seated at full droop.

e: Having said that, the fronts are clearly unseated. Why no helpers?

AndyHollis 04-01-2015 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1220164)
Helpers are unnecessary if the spring is still seated at full droop.

e: Having said that, the fronts are clearly unseated. Why no helpers?

Long story...but helpers will happen eventually.


Update: Car is back on the ground with ride heights set (no corner weights yet) and garage alignment. Drove around the block and nothing fell off. So it should be ready to race, right?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1427886515

KMiata 04-01-2015 07:02 PM

Looks GREAT. What height is the car at from the pinch welds?

AndyHollis 04-01-2015 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by K Miata (Post 1220649)
Looks GREAT. What height is the car at from the pinch welds?

4.25 / 4.375"

AndyHollis 04-06-2015 07:10 PM

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More updates coming...been off testing tires for GRM.

Harness is in. Schroth Profi II HANS. 2/3" hybrid across the HANS, 2" lap for better fit, 6-point subs to better hold the pelvis down (given the rollbar proximity).

Had my cagebuilder do finish welding on the backing plates (I won't weld my own safety gear).

Lots of fiddling involved with the sub straps, as the seat is already on the floor. Had to enlarge the slots quite a bit to create clearance.

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AndyHollis 04-14-2015 02:21 PM

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Track debut for the One Lap Miata today...purposely did not put track pads on it so I'd keep speeds in check. Stole the SSR/Cont DW's off the Mazda 2 since all the other wheels have GRM test tires on them at the moment.

The car is a joy to drive. The electronic shocks are truly incredible, though I am still working on track setup. You can dial them down to Buick ride quality on the street (seriously), yet nicely taught on track. Haven't even begun to work on front/rear bias yet.

I need to watch my corner entries as I am so used to the mid-corner push that catches you with FWD.

Much left to do (including swapping in the race motor) but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now.

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KMiata 04-14-2015 11:36 PM

Car looks so clean and unassuming. Love it.

AndyHollis 04-15-2015 04:49 PM

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Moar camberz added.

ISC offset bushings on arms we had shipped there from Treasure Coast. We'll run 2.5 for One Lap due to the street miles (tire wear) and 3.5 for track-only events.

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hornetball 04-15-2015 05:16 PM

I'm definitely interested in more camber, but scuttlebutt is that the ISC's conflict with 15x9s (see https://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep...ussions-83267/). Are you using spacers or running more narrow rims? Or maybe it's not an issue at all?

aidandj 04-15-2015 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1216253)
The carriers and calipers are interchangeable. Pad is determined by the carrier used, not the caliper.

Sport pads if you put NA8 calipers on Sport carriers. M-Tuned adapters, NA8 or NA8 depending on carrier used.

The caliper carrier, or bracket if you will, is different between Sport and standard, but the lug spacing and offset are the same. The pin centers, diameter and offset on the two calipers are the same. Ergo, one can fit Sport carriers (brackets) with non Sport calipers onto non Sport knuckles.

We have tried a bunch of different combos. Running 11.75's up front with Sport rear rotors and minimal aero, NA8 calipers. With huge downforce, porky car (V8), or 275's, the bigger piston Sport caliper starts to give better balance.

No idea why the Sport knuckle has a different P/N than the base. There was only what, one year of overlap AFAIK.

A little late to the party, but you're saying that I can combine the sport brackets and NA8 (Or NA6?) calipers? With a sports rotor? And this combined with an 11.75 kit up front has the best balance?


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