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y8s 06-06-2007 08:39 PM

Anyone have a 1.6L flywheel laying around they can measure?
 
Curious. Could benefit all of mankind.

Partsgroup dude told me folks modify the 1.6 fly to use with a twin plate clutch. I wanna know if it's possible or plausible.

I need the following dimensions:

crank surface to friction surface, +/-.100" is fine
bolt circle diameter to +/-.030"
outer diameter of friction surface to +/-.030
inner diameter of friction surface to +/-.030

thickness of the flywheel JUST outside the friction surface.. where you'd bolt a clutch to if it didn't have the threaded hole towers. rough dim is fine.

Thanks!

Matt

hustler 06-06-2007 09:05 PM

if I had precision tools I would do it for you on saturday.

y8s 06-06-2007 09:43 PM

what tools do you got?

hustler 06-06-2007 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 121063)
what tools do you got?

I have no precision measuring equipment.

y8s 06-06-2007 09:48 PM

so 1/32 is too hard to measure with a ruler?

hustler 06-06-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 121071)
so 1/32 is too hard to measure with a ruler?

I don't own a ruler that accurate, but I'll do what I can if the trans gets dropped.

Jefe 06-06-2007 09:56 PM

Damn...I just did a 1.6L clutch/flywheel last week...

TurboTim 06-07-2007 08:32 AM

I may be able to do this, lemme see if I can find my 1.6 stuff.

Braineack 06-07-2007 08:45 AM

I had a flywheel laying around all winter you coulda measured :doh:

keinayo 06-07-2007 09:27 AM

I think I still have my flywheel sitting in my garage. I will look for it this weekend. If I do, feel free to take it and measure what you need.

Ben 06-07-2007 09:32 AM

Would measurements from a non oem flywheel would suffice?

y8s 06-07-2007 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 121160)
Would measurements from a non oem flywheel would suffice?

I guess it depends on what it is. Lets call it "yes if steel"

Yoram: I may take you up on that since you're local.

if anyone else gets it done first, that's cool too.


and I only found out about this like a few days ago!

Oscar 06-07-2007 12:09 PM

I have an ACT prolite coming in this weekend if all is well, tell me if you'd need dimensions

y8s 06-12-2007 11:14 AM

bumpity bump bump?

neogenesis2004 06-12-2007 11:21 AM

I have one at home....4 hours away from here :)

shayrgob 06-12-2007 02:13 PM

If I had my caliper I would. I can't find it!...and I have the flywheel sitting here. lol

miatamania 06-12-2007 02:30 PM

I've got my 1.6 laying around that I just changed out...not sure if I have anything that accurate to measure with. and not sure what to measure.

Braineack 06-12-2007 02:49 PM

Matt I might have one by the end of the week....Picking up a short block, might have it still attached.

that7guy 06-12-2007 03:13 PM

I just took my old one out and put in a resurfaced one. If you have the measuring tools we can meet up and you can take what you need. I need to take it back to PBC soon so i can get my exchange $ back soon though

akaryrye 06-12-2007 03:21 PM

K, got some measurements for u, I was not exactly sure what you needed, but hope it helps.
158mm ID of friction surface
276mm OD of friction surface, however there is 117mm of usable material beyond that until the edge of the disc (not counting the teeth obviously) The pressure plate bolts are less than half of an inch inward of the edge of the flywheel. Also I dont have any way to really measure how thick the metal is at the friction surface

y8s 06-12-2007 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 122363)
I got one sitting in the backyard and a digital caliper in the closet, ill brb with the measurements after I read thru the recent posts

holmes you win the motherfuckin prize! ...after you read thru the recent posts.

keinayo 06-12-2007 04:41 PM

I have my original 1.6 flywheel. Let me know if you want to meet and measure it.

y8s 06-12-2007 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 122363)
K, got some measurements for u, I was not exactly sure what you needed, but hope it helps.
158mm ID of friction surface
276mm OD of friction surface, however there is 117mm of usable material beyond that until the edge of the disc (not counting the teeth obviously) The pressure plate bolts are less than half of an inch inward of the edge of the flywheel. Also I dont have any way to really measure how thick the metal is at the friction surface

this is for a 1.6? hmmm.. seems kinda large for what i was thinking.

thanks tho!

neogenesis2004 06-20-2007 11:47 PM

Whelp, I got my used tilton in from ebay and put it on top a spare 1.6 flywheel. The friction surface will need to be machined back about 1cm ish and the entire area outside of the friction surface will need to be milled down so that the step is 0.100" tall. Also the machine shop would need to center the cover on the flywheel and drill/tap holes to mount it.

If you look carefully you will see that the ID of the friction surface is already the perfect diameter for the tilton clutch discs. The discs that came with this used clutch is a 3 plate sintered metallic package. I am ditching it and have already ordered a new PP that goes with the 2 disk rally setup and will be ordering custom clutch discs from clutchnet like matt (y8s) did. I was quoted an estimated $45 for the job after describing what needed to be done over the phone. He said to him it just sounded like a custom resurface, which other than drilling/tapping it is. It might run a bit more because they would charge by the hour for the work but he said it would be 2 hrs max (so $90 max).

I will be dropping it off by monday along with my block/pistons.

Here are the pics:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/gouldmab...1807_17501.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/gouldmab...1807_17502.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/gouldmab...1807_17511.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/gouldmab...1807_17512.jpg
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/gouldmab...1807_17521.jpg

y8s 06-20-2007 11:57 PM

too cool. any idea what the spring in the cover is? does it have a code on it?

neogenesis2004 06-21-2007 12:08 AM

I havent looked, do I have to take off those little nuts to find out?

y8s 06-21-2007 09:52 AM

no, and dont. that's a lot of spring pressure to release.

it should be on the fingers near where the release bearing rides. probably a 3 letter code. BUF, ORA, GRN, etc.

neogenesis2004 06-21-2007 11:43 AM

It is a grey spring.

y8s 06-21-2007 12:16 PM

so it's about 30% more pressure than mine. that's probably not too bad. probably hold 400 ft lbs with organic disks and the high ratio pp.

neogenesis2004 06-21-2007 12:37 PM

You just gotta gimmie those disk spec now so I can call clutchnet up :)

dedonderosa 06-21-2007 10:42 PM

i my still have one


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