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cardriverx 04-09-2008 10:32 PM

Anyone run a cherrybomb glasspack?
 
Im thinking of doing a downpipe to a cherry bomb and then dump it before the diff. Im intrested in how they sound, they look very non restrictive and cheap!

patsmx5 04-09-2008 10:39 PM

Nope, but plan to. Well, they are glass packs. I plan to run as many feet of them as possible to the rear, then a muffler. FWIW, the sound deadening affects grow exponentially with glass packs. For example, compare a 2' and 3' glass pack, the 3' cuts out almost twice as much as the 2' one. For what your doing, try to get a 4' one with a turndown at the end. They used to make 4' glasspacks, but I haven't been able to find them. Still, I plan to squeeze 6-7 feet of them into my exhaust system.

y8s 04-09-2008 10:45 PM

dont use the cherry bomb. it's louvered like a cheese grater inside. reduces flow significantly compared to a perforated core.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

maybe a few more bucks, but worth it.

patsmx5 04-09-2008 10:54 PM

Y8s, isn't that a resonator, not a glasspack?

ArtieParty 04-09-2008 10:58 PM

me and compy both heard a cherrybomb on a 1.6 miata over the summer when i picked up my hardtop in philly. we both agreed that it sounded like shit.

cardriverx 04-09-2008 11:00 PM

I looked inside the cherrybombs at pepboys, they dident have louvers, it was just straight through with holes (not louvers).

cardriverx 04-09-2008 11:00 PM

Well its eaither cherry bomb or straight downpipe..

Saml01 04-09-2008 11:05 PM

How about two running down the sides like an old school hot rod?

The_Pipefather 04-09-2008 11:07 PM

take a look at lightweightmiata.com. Member rmcelwee has some videos on that site as well as youtube. Sounds pretty ok for such a simple system, I think.

miatamania 04-09-2008 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 240876)
Y8s, isn't that a resonator, not a glasspack?

Yeah...which means it wont restrict flow or get the raspy ass sound....so its better all the way around.

its a straight through muffler, if used in conjunction with another muffler, it then becomes a resonator.

patsmx5 04-09-2008 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 240885)
Yeah...which means it wont restrict flow or get the raspy ass sound....so its better all the way around.

its a straight through muffler, if used in conjunction with another muffler, it then becomes a resonator.

Well, they don't do much compared to a glasspack. I think it's 1/3 the sound reduction of a glasspack, and most will admit even glasspacks don't do that much. Granted it doesn't restrict flow as bad, but at the consequence of less sound reduction. Not better all the way around is the point. Each has its perks. Glasspacks wear out, resonators don't.

y8s 04-09-2008 11:25 PM

what's the difference? it's a cylindrical muffler or a cylindrical muffler painted red. they are the same. perforated flow tube surrounded by fiberglass roving encased in another metal tube.

just make sure whatever you get isn't louvered.

yeah, robert did a dump-bomb just like you describe. dont expect it'll be quiet! :ugh2:

patsmx5 04-09-2008 11:33 PM

Glasspacks use fiberglass as the sound absorbing media. Resonators use steel mesh, or steel wool. The steel doesn't absorb sound as well, but it last longer. They are not the same.

urgaynknowit 04-09-2008 11:38 PM

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heres what i did,

3" right after the first bend on the greddy dp
so only like 4 inch's of the greddy dp remain
so i dont touch the hoses and crap
i ran a straight line, no cat , to this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magna...spagenameZWDVW

its very quiet, and sounds very nice when i romp on it
no rasp what so ever

heres how it looks

Attachment 213571
Attachment 213572

Toddcod 04-09-2008 11:42 PM

Looks great.

y8s 04-10-2008 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 240894)
Glasspacks use fiberglass as the sound absorbing media. Resonators use steel mesh, or steel wool. The steel doesn't absorb sound as well, but it last longer. They are not the same.

the walker/dynomax I linked to at summit uses fiberglass...

hustler 04-10-2008 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by urgaynknowit (Post 240896)
heres what i did,

3" right after the first bend on the greddy dp
so only like 4 inch's of the greddy dp remain
so i dont touch the hoses and crap
i ran a straight line, no cat , to this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magna...spagenameZWDVW

its very quiet, and sounds very nice when i romp on it
no rasp what so ever

heres how it looks

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...IMG00121-1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...IMG00122-1.jpg

looks like crushbent garbage to me.

Saml01 04-10-2008 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 241066)
looks like crushbent garbage to me.

On a pipe that big it wont make a difference.

y8s 04-10-2008 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 241068)
On a pipe that big it wont make a difference.

if anyone cares...

crushing a 3" pipe by just a half inch results in a 7.7% loss in flow area.

Atlanta93LE 04-10-2008 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 241068)
On a pipe that big it wont make a difference.

A crush bent 3" will still only flow like a ~2.5".

Zabac 04-10-2008 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 241079)
A crush bent 3" will still only flow like a ~2.5".

:werd:

mandrell bends FTW

Saml01 04-10-2008 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 241078)
if anyone cares...

crushing a 3" pipe by just a half inch results in a 7.7% loss in flow area.

Im guessing because of the narrower area it creates to make the bend.

urgaynknowit 04-10-2008 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 241066)
looks like crushbent garbage to me.

:jerkit:

as for 7% loss, who really cares for a 7% loss.....

i like it, it was cheap :)

ray_sir_6 04-10-2008 03:52 PM

I was running a 2.5" cherrybomb glasspack. Exactly the setup you are talking about, with the turndown before the diff. Loud, but sounded good. Not REALLY LOUD, just loud. I'm going back to a more conventional exhaust, and 3" now.

Bond 04-10-2008 04:20 PM

I had a cherry bomb on my N/A 90 miata. It started out okay then becaming deafening...had to buy an ansa slip on for the time being. It was a 2.5'' i think.

opek 04-10-2008 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by cardriverx (Post 240872)
Im thinking of doing a downpipe to a cherry bomb and then dump it before the diff. Im intrested in how they sound, they look very non restrictive and cheap!

I picked up a 3.5" moroso spiral flow for 35 shipped from summit.com a year or two ago. Exhaust was routed through the moroso then out a cutout valve. It sounded very loud in the car, even with the cutout 'turned down.' Outside of the car it sounds like any other four cylinder with an exhaust, nothing to aggressive or loud. Definitely not attracting the kind of attention you get with an open downpipe! I would have hated it w/out the valve to direct exhaust into a 2.5" dynomax thrush (20 dollars).

I can't comment on the cherry bomb, but 27 dollars for a 3" ID FTW!

miataspeed1point6 04-10-2008 07:23 PM

The problem I had with my old setup was the drone. The actual exhaust was actually pretty awsome. That drone would make my brain vibrate, drove me CRAZY.

mrtonyg 04-10-2008 08:54 PM

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DIY 3" exhaust with a straight through magnaflow and a downturn...track car only.

Would not do it on a daily driver...the sound inside the car would be annoying for daily driving. Outside of vehicle is not bad at all.

Kasper1 04-11-2008 06:14 PM

Take a look at these chambered mufflers http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/faq.html , http://www.torquetechexh.com/mufflers.htm . They cost a little more, but are way more efficient and don't make as much vibration/drone as a CherryBomb. In highschool I had two of these on an 87' IROC. I put them inline behind the cat and removed the (HEAVY & INEFFICIENT) single in dual out muffler. This alone droped my ET by .11 at the strip. The sideffect was everybody thought it was actually a V-6 because of the single exhaust.... until they heard it runnin.

The_Pipefather 04-11-2008 06:21 PM

When i do my exhaust in the coming weeks I am thinking of running a 2.5" downpipe expanding out to a 3" high-flow cat (which I already have), a 3" dynomax bullet, followed immediately by a supertrapp disc muffler terminating just ahead of the diff. Lets see how that works out.


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