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stfu with this e85 bullshit or I'll beat your ass like your dad, ------. Do not piss me off again.
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I hear that the US might be lifting a tariff/embargo/whatever that will make it easier to move E85 (cane based) from Brazil to the US. That could make it more prevalent. Right now the domestic E85 producers are eating corn poop (not doing well).
There is one E85 retailer here in San Antonio but they are like 30 minutes from where I work (even farther from where I live) so I have not tried it myself yet. |
Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 390172)
I hear that the US might be lifting a tariff/embargo/whatever that will make it easier to move E85 (cane based) from Brazil to the US. That could make it more prevalent. Right now the domestic E85 producers are eating corn poop (not doing well).
There is one E85 retailer here in San Antonio but they are like 30 minutes from where I work (even farther from where I live) so I have not tried it myself yet. |
Word. The Brazilians have E85 well integrated into their infrastructure and are way ahead of us. There is even information published in the papers that indicate whether gas or E85 is a better deal from day to day.
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Originally Posted by BarrigaNA
(Post 390116)
Put it this way, are you running a turbo? Did you replace the fuel lines? If you did you are good. I know guys that are running SR's with stock fuel lines...for the most part...and E85. No issues.
You can run it all on it's own too. You don't need to blend it if you have a stand alone. I think the blending is if you don't have a good computer/ECU to upgrade. The SR/RB guys running it here use a friend of mine to tune their ECU's. So if you run it straight you need a tune. If you blend it, you can probably do some small adjustments. E85 is definitely good for the track/hotter areas/making huge HP. It lowers the knock considerably. There are guys that swear by it. Once I get my standalone (thanks Travis) working and my car moving properly, I am switching over to E85 but also going to be using 91. Just depends on time of year and what I am doing. Some places carry allot of E85 and some don't. Point being, Omaha has allot of E85 places. |
Originally Posted by BarrigaNA
(Post 390206)
Sugar cane is the best way to make E85. You can make it from leaves if you wanted to. All you are looking for is a sugar base.
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Originally Posted by reppin651
(Post 390231)
E-85 is made from CORN! Thats why its so easily attainable in the mid-west.
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Originally Posted by reppin651
(Post 390231)
E-85 is made from CORN! Thats why its so easily attainable in the mid-west.
Im planning to run straight e-85, just asking if the lines can be use with e-85. What's you car's setup? If it's NA, stick with regular gas. If it's turbo go for it. But you need either a retune, standalone or something to get more fuel into your system. E85 is about 75% of that of gas. |
Originally Posted by reppin651
(Post 390231)
E-85 is made from CORN! Thats why its so easily attainable in the mid-west.
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Originally Posted by BarrigaNA
(Post 390116)
Put it this way, are you running a turbo? Did you replace the fuel lines? If you did you are good. I know guys that are running SR's with stock fuel lines...for the most part...and E85. No issues.
You can run it all on it's own too. You don't need to blend it if you have a stand alone. I think the blending is if you don't have a good computer/ECU to upgrade. The SR/RB guys running it here use a friend of mine to tune their ECU's. So if you run it straight you need a tune. If you blend it, you can probably do some small adjustments. E85 is definitely good for the track/hotter areas/making huge HP. It lowers the knock considerably. There are guys that swear by it. Once I get my standalone (thanks Travis) working and my car moving properly, I am switching over to E85 but also going to be using 91. Just depends on time of year and what I am doing. Some places carry allot of E85 and some don't. Point being, Omaha has allot of E85 places. Now... I do have a question for everyone......... What AFRs are you seeing while running E85? Cheers, Prospero |
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Originally Posted by Prospero
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Now... I do have a question for everyone......... What AFRs are you seeing while running E85?
Cheers, Prospero |
So with that chart does that mean that stoich for E85 would be .85X9 +.15X14.7= 9.855?
Percentage wise, would we go as rich in boost in the different levels as you would with regular? If not do you need to go richer or leaner than you would normally? |
My mazdaspeed protege would heat soak the tiny intercooler and pull timing constantly. Running 50% e85 pretty much fixed it completely and the car ran a helluva lot better.
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E85 not only has a higher 'octane' rating, but when it vaporizes, ethanol absorbs a lot more energy than gasoline. Therefore the intake charge (post-injector) ends up being cooler as well.
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