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danscreations 02-12-2008 10:22 AM

Best Radiator for the Money?
 
Been looking for a new radiator for a little while now and not sure what to go with. Was going to do a Godspeed but paid for it, etc. and they emailed me say it was out of stock for weeks so moving on. Seems like the other stuff on ebay is junk; maybe Haste but at that price you might as well pay and extra $50 and get a Koyo and have no worries or questions.

Not sure if I'm missing out on any others if so let me know if not where the best place to purchase a koyo?

Kelly 02-12-2008 10:49 AM

www.absoluteradiator.com

Get the thick guy!

Newbsauce 02-12-2008 10:55 AM

I just bought the Godspeed last week.. Its only out of stock for 2 weeks.

Loki047 02-12-2008 10:59 AM

GodSpeed. Do a search.

Sleeper_MX5 02-12-2008 11:52 AM

godspeed....

Marlond 02-12-2008 04:24 PM

i got a koyo off a ebay seller which had the "best offer" option and offered 20 under what he was asking, and he took it

danscreations 02-12-2008 10:18 PM

For those of you running a koyo what size are you running? Correct me if i'm wrong but there's a two (thickness around 37-39mm) and three row (thickness around 50-55mm). I have know doubts with a koyo but is it any better or worse than the godspeed?

spike 02-12-2008 10:35 PM

I'm running the Koyo 37mm and it just barely fits.I pretty sure you will need to trim alot of things to make the 55mm fit.

miataz 02-12-2008 10:58 PM

i say godspeed, no one has had problems, and its what half the price of the koyo?

Savington 02-12-2008 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Loki047 (Post 212992)
GodSpeed. Do a search.

Read the OP much?

jayc72 02-12-2008 11:06 PM

Godspeed has to be about 55mm, and it fits with an RB 15/16" front bar with a little bit to spare. That's with stock fans, the stand-offs were modified to bring the fans closer to the rad. We'll see this weekend if the RB hollow bar fits or not.

jayc72 02-12-2008 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by miataz (Post 213344)
i say godspeed, no one has had problems, and its what half the price of the koyo?

One person had a leak right out of the box.

miataz 02-12-2008 11:31 PM

one out of how many lol, there has to be a flaw sometime everythings not perfect

jayc72 02-13-2008 12:13 AM


no one has had problems

there has to be a flaw sometime everythings not perfect
One of these things is not like the other.

Jay

cjernigan 02-13-2008 12:18 AM

I think as a forum we have bought atleast 50 of these radiators and we've only heard about one failure. That failure was resolved by free replacement of the radiator.

jayc72 02-13-2008 12:31 AM

How many of the 50 are yet to be installed on a running car? I've test fit mine but have no idea if it is going to leak. Having said that, at the price it is well worth the MINOR risk.

I was just busting the boys balls.

thesnowboarder 02-13-2008 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by spike (Post 213326)
I'm running the Koyo 37mm and it just barely fits.I pretty sure you will need to trim alot of things to make the 55mm fit.

Ive got a 55mm in mine, fitment is perfect, stock fans/fan was/would be the only thing needed to be trimmed. And thats if you have a large FSB. I can take pictures if needed.

cjernigan 02-13-2008 01:06 AM

I asked the guy selling the GS radiators if they had seen anymore failures besides the one and he said they hadn't and reminded me that there is a 1 year warranty. I know that he could be lying but the last guy that had trouble with his got a new one out of the deal once he proved it had a leak by a radiator shop.
Either way, buy two at the same time. For the price you can afford to get one, install it, if it's broke replace it with the other one and get GS to send you a new one. Then sell the extra GS locally.

Savington 02-13-2008 02:25 AM

It's a shame nobody has the CSF 2" in stock anymore. I love mine, bolted right up, even the fan mounts were pretty much spot on.

danscreations 02-13-2008 11:09 AM

I can wait 2 weeks for the radiator...it's a must that I get one but I've worked in the industry and they may be right an telling the truth but a good 80-90% of them will lie to keep the sale, money, etc. So realisticly i could be 3, 4, 5, etc. weeks. Which holding my hard earned money for that time. Think was pissed me off the worst was they have an ebay auction for them and they DON'T HAVE THEM! Not how ebay works.

Anyways the koyo's on ebay or offsite are around $345 shipped and the Godspeed was $230 shipped difference of $115 which isn't close to double the price. The Godspeed is two row as well correct? If so and money wasn't the issue as which would you get? Still the Godspeed or Koyo (37mm)

Loki047 02-13-2008 11:23 AM

If money wasnt an issue? I would get a Ferrari or Veyron.

Loki047 02-13-2008 11:24 AM

Oh yeah a Veyron with a GS radiator

cjernigan 02-13-2008 12:08 PM

The Godspeed is $160 shipped. That's why I said buy two.
If you go through the groupbuy thread you'll see how we worked that price out.
Call and tell them you want the miataturbo.net GB price.

deliverator 02-13-2008 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 213614)
If so and money wasn't the issue as which would you get? Still the Godspeed or Koyo (37mm)

The Koyo, obviously.

Loki047 02-13-2008 12:53 PM

If anyone has had a GS fail on them, then a Koyo (assuming no Koyo has ever failed)

miataz 02-13-2008 02:56 PM

bottom line, if your a cheap fuck that wants a good rad get a GS. If you have the money then get a koyo...

Newbsauce 02-13-2008 03:00 PM

Koyo - 345
Godspeed - 160

Now, I'm a cheap shit on certain issues, but if you have a difference of 180 dollars staring you in the face... you have think: "What can I buy for 180 dollars?" Thats quite a significant difference. You can spend some of that money on crazy ass slim line fans :)

Loki047 02-13-2008 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by miataz (Post 213708)
bottom line, if your a cheap fuck that wants a good rad get a GS. If you have the money then get a koyo...

Is there any logic there?

soflarick 02-13-2008 03:30 PM

For ease of installation and fitment, esp if you have a large front swaybar, the 37mm will be good. I ran an older FM race radiator which was apparently a PWR 37mm, bonded core. With an MP62 and IC the car ran well within operating temps on track, even during 30-40 sessions in South Florida. However, I don't know how a turbo will affect cooling capability since it is going to add some heat into the system that the SC did not. I had to replace the leaking FM rad, and needed one quickly, so I got the thick CSF radiator. The OEM fans are going to need massive trimming to fit between the new radiator and RB hollow front bar. I'm probably just going to mount the 2 12" fans I have directly to the core using brackets based off the standoffs on the radiator.

cjernigan 02-13-2008 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 213710)
Koyo - 345
Godspeed - 160

Now, I'm a cheap shit on certain issues, but if you have a difference of 180 dollars staring you in the face... you have think: "What can I buy for 180 dollars?" Thats quite a significant difference. You can spend some of that money on crazy ass slim line fans :)

The fans are another bonus, aren't they only $18 a piece of something like that?

danscreations 02-13-2008 04:14 PM

I see your point...there is a pretty big difference if I can actually get one for $160 shipped. I'll give it a week and see how the story goes there and decide. I have two slimline fans anyways so I'm not concerned about clearance just which is better and does the job better than oem (which I assumed both did).

budget racer 02-13-2008 05:37 PM

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http://www.radiatorworld.com/radiato...no=29008&cat=1

third one down for $255 is what i purchased when i found out about the 5 week godspeed backorder. it is made by CSF.....stock dimensions but the core is twice as thick. the installation was perfect, all of their mounts lined up exactly as stock.

Ben 02-13-2008 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 213813)
third one down for $255 is what i purchased when i found out about the 5 week godspeed backorder. it is made by CSF.....stock dimensions but the core is twice as thick.

Do you have a part number for this radiator?

budget racer 02-13-2008 05:51 PM

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EDIT: i just ran out to inspect the box....it has #2838 printed on it. maybe you can reference it by that number. :dunno:

maybe give them a call?

when i heard of the GS backorder i basically just made myself a guinea pig and took my chances when i ordered that one. i had no idea of the brand or quality when i made the purchase, it was just the right price. when it showed up i was really happy with the quality and was extremely impressed with the fit.

ZX-Tex 02-13-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by budget racer (Post 213813)
.....stock dimensions but the core is twice as thick.

Is it a two-core? I am guessing it is from the pictures.

Nevermind.... went to the link. One really wide core.

budget racer 02-13-2008 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 213815)
Do you have a part number for this radiator?

http://www.csfimports.com/csf_catalo...sp?CSF_NO=2838

Ben 02-13-2008 07:17 PM

Thanks... Let's just say I know a distributor :)

budget racer 02-13-2008 07:24 PM

please tell me that csf has a good reputation for quality parts and effective cooling.

soflarick 02-14-2008 09:20 AM

I decided on the CSF after reading through the Spec Miata website, and talking with a couple SM guys. They seem to be very happy with CSF, allegedly does a better job than Koyo of the same size.

Zabac 02-14-2008 11:20 AM

Dan, if you deal with CG over the phone he can tell you immediately whats going on, they get containers frequently, so it is safe to assume that he knows exaclty when it will be there, they are pretty cool guys over there from dealing with them so far, and yes a lot of businesses will lie to keep money, but keep in mind, this guy already made a shitload with us by doing volume not gross, they help us we help them, if you want a cheap radiator thats pretty good in quality, then go for GS, if you want to be flashy then go with Koyo or other name brand
you dont have to order the rad until they come in stock, just wait until he tells you that they are in stock and order than and you will get it prolly the same week, they ship fast...

good luck

Loki047 02-14-2008 11:25 AM

you guys are over thinking the added cooling capacity of these units.


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