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cjernigan 08-08-2007 02:27 AM

Bought 15x8 6ULs Need Tires, Want Opinions
 
Pretty simple really. I bought a set of nickel +36 6ULs and need some rubber for them. I was thinking some 225/45r15 rubber in Hankook RS2s would be nice and are used often with this wheel. Pretty sure savington and Y8s are using these exact tires actually. Anyway Hankook is sold out of the RS2s in this size anyway. Emilio is saying I should go for some RA-1s but I don't have the coin to drop on new ones. What do you guys think I should go for? Anything will be better than the 205s i'm running now. I really don't want to buy a set of tires now only to upgrade to 225s later though. Guess i'm just between a rock and a hard place with hankook running out of my chosen rubber.
Oh yeah, I don't plan on using the 6ULs as track dedicated wheels for the time being. I'll need them more for all purpose whenever/autocross/possible trackday. Then later on I think i'll look into some stockers or something else cheap for roadtrips or something.

Savington 08-08-2007 02:44 AM

Emilio has emptied the 225/45 inventory twice now with his wheel orders. I'd say if you have 205s now, have them mounted on the 6ULs until the 225/45 comes back into stock. Hopefully they're 205/50-15s and not 205/40-16 or 205/55-14.

cjernigan 08-08-2007 02:49 AM

The problem is the whole reason i'm going for the 6ULs is because the wheels that came on my car are 17x7 konig imagines(22lbs) and the tires are 205/45rz17s. Anyway hahahaha they won't fit on the 6ULs or I'd do the swap in a flash.

Savington 08-08-2007 02:52 AM

Nuts. I'd run Azenis, then, and step up to the 225/45 when you wear the Azenis out.

cjernigan 08-08-2007 02:58 AM

Sounds like my best option. So i see Azeni 615s in my future. I just can't imagine driving around town on RA-1s. By the time i did make it to a track day on them they'd be bald(read threads) and hard from all the heat cycles.

y8s 08-08-2007 10:00 AM

could you fit a BFG KD in 225/50-15? rub rub?

olderguy 08-08-2007 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 138170)
could you fit a BFG KD in 225/50-15? rub rub?

If it did, maybe a little more negative camber would solve it?

cjernigan 08-08-2007 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 138170)
could you fit a BFG KD in 225/50-15? rub rub?

This is what Emilio has found to work.

99-05 Miata +40 225/45/15 Hankook RS2 fits front and rear, no rubbing. +36 require a little extra camber if ride height is below 12.2" with short body shocks. 245/40/15 fits rear, requires rolled fenders, front requires rolling and rubs slightly at full steering lock. Clears Wilwood BBK with two piece front rotors. Fits 01+ sport brakes. +36 required for early Wilwood brake kits using one piece Corrado rotors. 225/50/15 fits rear with +40 & +36 but does not fit front well. 225/50 in front requires fender roll and a little extra camber.

Man what a kick in the balls.

Savington 08-08-2007 07:28 PM

225/50 is also pretty tall. I'd rather have the 205/50.

Savington 08-08-2007 07:28 PM

Or, you could just keep the 17s on the car until the 225/45 becomes available again.

cjernigan 08-08-2007 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 138395)
Or, you could just keep the 17s on the car until the 225/45 becomes available again.

I'm thinking that's what i'm gonna do. Might be the best way to go. Only downside is I might lose my buyer or the 17s due to taking so long.

Pitlab77 08-08-2007 11:37 PM

there will always be buyers for big wheels

cjernigan 08-08-2007 11:51 PM

Wonder if Emilio will just hold onto my wheels so I can have him mount the RS2s considering he has a decent price on the tires that way he can do all that for me before they ship. That way I don't have to try and stash 4 6ULs in my apartment.

Pitlab77 08-08-2007 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 138476)
Wonder if Emilio will just hold onto my wheels so I can have him mount the RS2s considering he has a decent price on the tires that way he can do all that for me before they ship. That way I don't have to try and stash 4 6ULs in my apartment.

put a piece of glass on them and call it a coffee table.

cjernigan 08-09-2007 12:00 AM

It would definitely be the most expensive piece of furniture in my apartment.

miatamania 08-09-2007 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Pitlab77 (Post 138481)
put a piece of glass on them and call it a coffee table.

college furniture FTW! :D

Newbsauce 08-09-2007 10:18 AM

I have had 205/45s for quite awhile, I don't see them as enough for my personal goals. I happened to get a free set of tires with my Kosei's that were 205/45 and I can't wait for them to die off so I can get some 225s.

y8s 08-09-2007 10:31 AM

225s are probably too skinny for anyone running enough for a built motor. You'll find that when you just drop the gas in 2nd at 4500 that the rear end goes squirrely on you.

messiahx 08-09-2007 10:45 AM

I have the same wheels and the R-S2s from the first run Emilio did last year. I'd wait for the 225/45s to come back in stock. You won't be disappointed.

Dhaark 08-09-2007 11:30 AM

What about edgeracing? I think they have the rs2's in stock. I was looking around to find a 245-255/40r15 but no luck. Does anyone know where to get these tires? Or something to put on: 15x10 6UL when they come out...

cjernigan 08-09-2007 03:07 PM

Son of a bitch. I just called them and they just sold their last set today.

Dhaark 08-09-2007 03:46 PM

I called 949 and they don't know if they'll have the 15x10 6UL's ;( because the only tire for that rim is a hoosier and costs limke 300 something (close to 400). but if they do I'll get them for the track <- street. lol

btw. I think discount tire will get you the hankooks for 87 mounted or even less. if you print out the edgeracing page and go to them with it...

Savington 08-09-2007 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Dhaark (Post 138563)
What about edgeracing? I think they have the rs2's in stock. I was looking around to find a 245-255/40r15 but no luck. Does anyone know where to get these tires? Or something to put on: 15x10 6UL when they come out...

Emilio's got 245/40-15s, or he knows where to get them. They are definitely not street tires, though, or anywhere close to street tires.

cjernigan 08-09-2007 05:04 PM

I might have a lead on some RS2s. It's taken tons of phone calls and a good part of my day but i might have found a set. Getting them shipped will be a different story.

dirtyboost 08-09-2007 05:04 PM

i'd wait for the 225 rs2s to come back out, they really are a wonderful tire. I love my 6ULS

Dhaark 08-09-2007 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 138653)
Emilio's got 245/40-15s, or he knows where to get them. They are definitely not street tires, though, or anywhere close to street tires.



He told me about them.... hoosier something, really expensive... but I want them....

hustler 08-09-2007 10:35 PM

that sucks. If this is a track wheel you're making a mistake by not getting ra-1's.

cjernigan 08-10-2007 12:00 AM

I don't plan on these being tracks wheels. I can't afford let alone store two sets of wheels when considering the money spent on the wheels themselves. Plus I don't make enough track days, considering i've never done one. I drive my car when I feel like, I want to autocross it, and someday soon I want to track it with NASA. The RA-1s would be destroyed by the time I made it to the track.

Maybe one day after college I'll be able to do that.

cjernigan 08-14-2007 03:18 AM

Ended up with 205/50 azeni 615s. I'll post pics when i get them on. Though you'll have to forgive the stock rideheight. Only downside from getting rid of the 17s will be the enormous fender gap. Some ebay coils with sleeves might have to get me by for a while until i can afford something else.

fmowry 08-14-2007 06:26 AM

I'm in the same boat. Emilio better hold the wheels til the tires come in as I don't want some local monkey having to mount tires and pay the extra shipping separately for wheels/tires. That fact that Hankook can't step up production on a hot product is pretty lame.

Frank

cjernigan 08-14-2007 03:48 PM

Emilio said he would hold the wheels no problem. He talked to Hankook yesterday, there is NO ETA on when the RS2 225s would be produced let alone shipped out. If he had a ETA around a month I would have waited. He said he could get the 615s in this week though so i can have the wheels back in TN around when I get back versus possibly waiting months for them.
I need to work for Hankook, someone needs to straigten them out.

danscreations 08-14-2007 04:05 PM

I have a set I'll sell you...I'm about the powdercoat the wheels so I have to pull them off anyways. Fronts I just replaced 99% tread and rears have 60%.

fmowry 08-15-2007 07:30 AM

I ended up going with the 225-45 RA-1s. Emilio said that for 200+ whp, it was the best choice. I'll put bad weather tires on my stock rims, and use the RA-1s for the dry spring/summer/fall weather here in MD. If it gets crappy, I'll just drive the OTM.

A bit pricey at $150 though.

Frank

cjernigan 08-15-2007 03:47 PM

The price was the only thing that kept me from going for the RA1s. If I burn the Azenis off this year i'll replace them with RA-1s next year. Hopefully they work out alright for me though because I'd rather run them for two years and save up for some Tein Flexes.

cjernigan 09-29-2007 12:33 PM

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Went with the 205/50r15s RT-615s, they're nice and they'll just have to do for now considering there was still no ETA on RS2s when my wheels shipped. Got the wheels,tire, & center caps from Emilio at 949racing. Used McGard 2 piece spline drive lug nuts from Goodwin Racing. Upgrading from 22lb 17x7 Konig Imagines to the 13lb sexual goodness. Once i burn the 615s down i'll go for some 225/45 RS2s or NTO1s we'll see.

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A Little mt.net love. The ass end is jacked up, it doesn't sit that high.
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Close Up showing them with grey valves and McGard lug nuts.
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cjernigan 09-29-2007 12:35 PM

You give me shit about it being a 4x4 savington and i'll feed you your own nuts for breakfast. When i jack it up it takes it a little while to settle back down, so it actually sits a little lower than that.
Seriously though, i'll get around to getting suspension, just have to find the coin. Other things comes first, like a radiator. It's also normally not dirty like that, took it for a drive yesterday and drove through a few small puddles.

Savington 09-29-2007 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 157667)
You give me shit about it being a 4x4 savington and i'll feed you your own nuts for breakfast.


:rofl::rofl:

Lookin good. I tried the NT-01s in July (Emilio let me borrow them for a session :bigtu:) and compared to the R-S2s they were just unreal. The turn-in was so precise and the level of grip available was just stupid. My dad drove them first, pulled into the pits, and said "Jesus christ."

hustler 09-29-2007 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 138550)
225s are probably too skinny for anyone running enough for a built motor. You'll find that when you just drop the gas in 2nd at 4500 that the rear end goes squirrely on you.

I bet the 205 not-01's will be exciting then...and I bet the weathered kumho street tires will be worthless at 250whp.

magnamx-5 09-29-2007 08:42 PM

Holy streched tire batman :eek:

cjernigan 09-30-2007 12:08 AM

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After driving the car about 150 miles today I love the new wheels and tires. The ride quality is great and i like the tires quite a bit. I could be wrong, pretty sure they come with some kind of mold compound on them because the first couple corners i powered out of it slid quite a bit compared the the KDW2s. The lower unsprung mass is very noticeable and I'm very happy with the upgrade.

They're not stretched too aweful much, not like i'm gonna transfer to roadster drift anytime soon. They're only .5" more narrow than the 225 RS2s supposedly and they had just a little more tread then the 215s that were on the konig wheels.
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The perspective of this picture is screwed. The tread width is really just about equal, specially when you include the round shoulder of the azenis. The KDWs are 215s.
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Savington 09-30-2007 02:47 AM

Those KDWs are USELESS on the track. They will chunk faster than a shitty cookie.

At 220whp, if I am not pointed dead straight, full throttle in 2nd gear results in wheelspin and a lot of tail-out action.

hustler 09-30-2007 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Dhaark (Post 138664)
He told me about them.... hoosier something, really expensive... but I want them....

you should run hoosier a6's on the street. Think of all the grip you'll have on the way to the grocery store.

hustler 09-30-2007 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 157829)
Those KDWs are USELESS on the track. They will chunk faster than a shitty cookie.

At 220whp, if I am not pointed dead straight, full throttle in 2nd gear results in wheelspin and a lot of tail-out action.

azenis or r-comps...I don't see any logic in using another tire but possibly the rs2...but isn't it more prone to over-heating than the azenis?

GTS Miata 09-30-2007 12:21 PM

those look nice. I didn't know that they made them in a non CR-style offset!

cjernigan 09-30-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 157864)
azenis or r-comps...I don't see any logic in using another tire but possibly the rs2...but isn't it more prone to over-heating than the azenis?

Not from experience or anything but people say the azenis overheat and get greasy on the track while the RS2s aren't as bad. Sounds like savington liked the NT01s and people say the RA1s get into their happy place once they get some heat in them and they just stay there.


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