General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Which Brake Pads, And Where??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-08-2008, 10:08 PM
  #21  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

By the way guys....metal vs ceramic???
TonyV is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:18 PM
  #22  
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Saml01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,710
Total Cats: 3
Default

Originally Posted by tvalenziano
By the way guys....metal vs ceramic???
Metal

Originally Posted by Zabac
so not true on the track
Maybe, I guess if you do a lot of handbrake drifting they may be worth changing.
Saml01 is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:19 PM
  #23  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
johndoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,970
Total Cats: 1
Default

I used the PBR Ultimates and they stopped very well, they do dust a decent amount, but no noise. As for the name difference, I'm not sure why but it is known that they are the same.
I had the same problem with one of my rear calipers. It turned out the arm that the e-brake cable attatches to on the caliper was very corroded and wouldn't release all the way sometimes. I'm pretty sure it's not a servicable part, but don't quote me on that. I bought a new one to replace it.
johndoe is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:36 PM
  #24  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

Thanks for the insight....I guess I'll try the PBC's and go from there...everyone agree w/ Sam bout Metal vs Ceramic? (sorry but never had much of a reason to worry bout brakes too much...now i have the powa)

I'm gonna address the ebrake issue at the same time the car is up getting the rest of the brake work done...

Something to add to the list of possibilities....now I'm up to:
ebrake adjustment (handle and caliper)
lube
bad caliper (wouldnt it be getting stuck when pedal braking as well, nut just ebrake??)
ebrake attachment arm


Screw it while the thread title should have been more like MY BRAKE SETUP?????,
any real benefit for slotted/drilled rotors?? My thinking is if any it'd only be at the track under the most extreme conditions...From what I read it opinions go from "huge improvement" to "drilled rotors crack/are useless, slotted dont crack but are still useless"...and of course every manufacturer's claim of "heat/gas dissipitation"...
TonyV is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:41 PM
  #25  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

eghh, sorry but also anyone running the 01+ sport rotors??? I ask because since I'm addressing the brakes I was considering bumping up to the slightly larger rotors...however I know (seriously doubt) my stock 14's wont clear them...

I am correct that to use 01+ rotors I'd need 15's??? Also correct that I can use my current brackets and calipers?? Or do I need the 01 brackets as well...

Lastly, any strongly preferred fluid?? I hear most people using ATE or Motuls..again doubt I'll be boiling any but figured I'd ask....

Sorry but figured I'd get it all out there, take all the abuse, but hopefully get some answers
TonyV is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:41 PM
  #26  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
johndoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,970
Total Cats: 1
Default

I believe the general consensus is the drilled slotted thing is bling
johndoe is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:48 PM
  #27  
Elite Member
iTrader: (30)
 
levnubhin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 7,329
Total Cats: 12
Default

Just use the napa rotors you have. I wouldnt worry about tryin to upgrade up to the 01+ Sport brakes. Im using the Axxis Ultimates also and have had no trouble with them at all.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
levnubhin is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:54 PM
  #28  
Elite Member
iTrader: (24)
 
chriscar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Carrollton TX
Posts: 1,709
Total Cats: 15
Default

Originally Posted by tvalenziano
eghh, sorry but also anyone running the 01+ sport rotors??? I ask because since I'm addressing the brakes I was considering bumping up to the slightly larger rotors...however I know (seriously doubt) my stock 14's wont clear them...
I've bought all the pieces, but haven't installed them yet, so everything I'm tellingyou is based on 'internet knowledge/research', and zero real world experience.

01+ Sport Calipers & Brackets are required to fit the rotors, and you need to run 15" minimum wheels (and don't forget about a 15" spare). The rotors are pricey no matter where you get them.

I bought the calipers, with mounting brackets & proportioning valve for $300 and change from www.partsgroup.com, rotors came from Amazon.com ($10 shipping FTW) for about $150, and Carbotech Bobcats were about $225, so the total in the $700 neighborhood. Luckily I already have ss brake lines, and I'll recoup some money by selling my 1.8l brakes, but like everything else, the **** adds up quick.

C
chriscar is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:55 PM
  #29  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

Well that clearly rules them out for me for now...I hoping all I'd need was rotors and wheels...

Let me know how it goes, as I'll prob go down the same road (upgrade and sell 1.8 stuff) some other time...
TonyV is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 10:58 PM
  #30  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

Originally Posted by levnubhin
Just use the napa rotors you have. I wouldnt worry about tryin to upgrade up to the 01+ Sport brakes. Im using the Axxis Ultimates also and have had no trouble with them at all.
Phil, metal as well?
TonyV is offline  
Old 05-08-2008, 11:04 PM
  #31  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

Eghh nm, ultimates are ceramic it looks like "ceramic strengthened formula"

**** it I'm just gonna follow the herd, grab some ultimates and try 'em out....sounds like one of those things that varies from person to person anyway...
TonyV is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 02:23 AM
  #32  
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
elesjuan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Posts: 5,360
Total Cats: 43
Default

Originally Posted by johndoe
don't get it from ebay if you get the Ultimates. Get them from getcoolparts.com They're labeled as PBR but we all know it's the same company as Axis. They are $60 with free shipping from that site.
I got the Axis/PBR back in Sep 07 and I love em. Had a few sudden hard stops that I needed to make quickly and they didn't let me down.

Next pads I'm gonna try are either the Hawk HP+ or Carbotechs
elesjuan is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 08:54 AM
  #33  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
m2cupcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,486
Total Cats: 372
Default

I was in sc'd Miata at a track event running Sumitomo pads (from Rspeed). Don't know what model, but I was VERY impressed with how well they managed the abuse. And minimal noise or dust for street use. I believe they're ~$60 for the fronts.
m2cupcar is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 09:02 AM
  #34  
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

people who complain about HP+ do not have a *****. Seriously, stop crying. I love that pad. I can drive 10/10 all session long and I get no fade on my stock 1.6.

If you don't track the car, get hps.
hustler is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 09:04 AM
  #35  
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by Saml01
Just get replacements for the front if you are concerned about money, the rear hardly does any work to warrant expensive pads back there.
I can get all 4 glowing on the track.
hustler is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 09:04 AM
  #36  
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
Default

I think we probably need a distinction between track type pads and street type pads. IMO, HP+ is not a good street pad. IMO, HP+ is not a good track pad either.
__________________
Chief of Floor Sweeping, DIYAutoTune.com & AMP EFI
Crew Chief, Car Owner & Least Valuable Driver, HongNorrthRacing

91 Turbo | 10AE Turbo | 01 Track Rat | #323 Mazda Champcar

Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Ben is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 08:06 PM
  #37  
Elite Member
iTrader: (16)
 
99mx5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 1,647
Total Cats: 524
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
I ate through a set of brand new EBC redstuff in 90 minutes.
+1 My EBC Reds are almost gone after two trackdays. I also liked my EBC Greens. I had to drag the brakes to get them to bite in the mornings.
99mx5 is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 08:16 PM
  #38  
Junior Member
 
VanMSM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 129
Total Cats: 6
Default

I've got Carbotech XP8 on the front and AX6 on the back with ATE super blue fluid. I run them on the street and the track. I can fade them on the track so I've got XP12/XP10 on order.
VanMSM is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 08:34 PM
  #39  
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by Ben
IMO, HP+ is not a good track pad either.
wrong
hustler is offline  
Old 05-09-2008, 08:58 PM
  #40  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
TonyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,615
Total Cats: 2
Default

ordered PBR Ultimates today, if I'm not happy with these then I guess Hawk's will be next try
TonyV is offline  


Quick Reply: Which Brake Pads, And Where??



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 AM.