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sicklyscott 02-23-2017 09:13 PM

Brakes...do I need new calipers?
 
im slowly going through my new to me '91 to get it prepped for an upcoming DE. I went to check / change the rear pads and to my surprise the pad had almost zero material left on them. What I'm trying to figure out is do I need new calipers too?

the brakes were upgraded to "sport brakes" though I'm not sure from what year, or even if it matter? The front brakes look good, rotors look new and I just put on xp12. The rear rotors look ok on the front face but the rear face look like they've never seen friction. They're just a rusted mess. What I find odd is the back (inboard) pad looks more worn than the front pad (outboard). I would think if the back of the rotor looks like it hasn't seen a brake pad for decades then the inboard pad would be less worn.

So 2 basic questions:

1. Should I replace the rear calipers?
2. How do I know, or should I care what year the brakes are from so I can pick the correct rotor?

this is the rear face of the drivers rear rotor and matching pad.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...373486363b.jpg

Lexzar 02-23-2017 10:29 PM

If they aren't seized, they are fine. Lube them up and use good pads with new rotors.

curly 02-23-2017 11:10 PM

Dear lord, is that your fucking rear rotor??? Looks like the Titanic wreckage.

Look, stock single piston brake calipers are based off of Newton's third law. As the piston pushes against the outer surface, the caliper should slide on it's pins, therefore pushing (pulling?) the rear pad against the back of the rotor. If your pins are bent, rusted, or corroded (I'm guessing they are), they'll be seized to the pins, and the only force on the pad will be from the piston side.

But to answer your question, judging from the photo you posted, you need new hard brake lines, soft brake lines, calipers, brackets, rotors, pads, and probably control arms, sub frames, and a new chassis.

Lexzar 02-23-2017 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1394941)
Dear lord, is that your fucking rear rotor??? Looks like the Titanic wreckage.

But to answer your question, judging from the photo you posted, you need new hard brake lines, soft brake lines, calipers, brackets, rotors, pads, and probably control arms, sub frames, and a new chassis.

:rofl:

sixshooter 02-24-2017 07:14 AM

I would guess that something is frozen with rust.

sicklyscott 02-24-2017 08:02 AM

The piston moves with the allen wrench, if it were frozen would that still be possible?

rleete 02-24-2017 09:07 AM

No. The piston is not the problem. It's the pins. Get a kit from Rockauto.com

huesmann 02-24-2017 01:00 PM

Based on the condition of your rotors, I'd replace the whole shebang...

sicklyscott 02-24-2017 01:25 PM

Ordered new pins and rotors. It's easy enough to pop back off if it turns out the calipers are garbage.


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