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Faeflora 09-01-2010 10:00 AM

Bungalisicous Barbtastic
 
My Tial BOV flutters. I want to give it an awesome vacuum source so my plan is to drill a hole in my IM plenum (stock 01+) and put a barb on it. I found this wicked barb on http://www.anver.com:

http://www.anver.com/images/componen...bs/a3434b!.jpg

It is a full fucking 3/4 inches. I was considering also boring out my Tial for an equally sized barb on the BOV "helmet".

Is this overkill?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-01-2010 10:14 AM

Maybe your Tial flutters because they designed it to flutter because ricers like it when it flutters?

pschmidt 09-01-2010 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 624308)
My Tial BOV flutters. I want to give it an awesome vacuum source so my plan is to drill a hole in my IM plenum (stock 01+) and put a barb on it. I found this wicked barb on http://www.anver.com:

http://www.anver.com/images/componen...bs/a3434b!.jpg

It is a full fucking 3/4 inches. I was considering also boring out my Tial for an equally sized barb on the BOV "helmet".

Is this overkill?

If you're going to go to the trouble of tapping, use pushloc.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_001.jpg
http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_002.jpg
http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_003.jpg

Stock vacuum nipple vs 1/4in pushloc

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_008.jpg

hustler 09-01-2010 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 624319)
Maybe your Tial flutters because they designed it to flutter because ricers like it when it flutters?

Doubtful. If you want it to stay closed in vacuum, you're going to hear a little noise at low boost.

Faeflora 09-01-2010 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 624330)

Did that help your BOV open more quickly?

hustler 09-01-2010 11:52 AM

http://www.poweraire.com/air-fitting...013b000217c6d2

fmowry 09-01-2010 12:24 PM

Do you have the right spring in it? You shouldn't need 3/4 inch source for it to work properly.

pschmidt 09-01-2010 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 624362)
Did that help your BOV open more quickly?

Marginally quicker. I tried everything to get the Tial to work. Three different springs, shimming, etc, but I finally threw in the towel and got a SSQ. No more flutter.

y8s 09-01-2010 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by fmowry (Post 624406)
Do you have the right spring in it? You shouldn't need 3/4 inch source for it to work properly.

wait'll he finds out that the force on the bov is not dependent on the area of the vacuum line.

hustler 09-01-2010 03:27 PM

I switched to a larger diameter hose and it worked much better...but worked best with the correct spring.

Faeflora 09-01-2010 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 624478)
wait'll he finds out that the force on the bov is not dependent on the area of the vacuum line.

???? Well I want the MAP in the BOV to equal the MAP in the plenum as quickly as possible so why wouldn't a bigger vacuum line make the BOV open more quickly?



Originally Posted by hustler (Post 624482)
I switched to a larger diameter hose and it worked much better...but worked best with the correct spring.


Did you go to the black spring, white, unpainted, or pink spring? I used to have the pink spring and it never ever pooshed. Went to the unpainted one now I think and it goes ch ch ch ch poosh. With my current spring the bov is opened just a tiny crack at idle.

fooger03 09-02-2010 03:49 PM

A bigger hose won't change the time it takes the pressure wave to travel from IM to BOV, a shorter hose will. If you have a leak from the high pressure side to the low pressure side of the BOV which is exaggerated when the BOV is open (poor tolerance machining or intentional fluttering?), then air may leak from the high side to the low side when the BOV opens, which will increase the pressure of the low side of the BOV enough for the spring to momentarily shut the valve before the pressure falls again, and the valve reopens. Perhaps this is the reason behind your flutter?


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