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levnubhin 10-22-2008 09:42 PM

Coolant reroute (I think)
 
Someone correct me if im wrong but I dont think this will help much at all. My friend did this "reroute" and I just do think its gonna do squat.


*Warning - My coolant reroute involves removal of timing belt. For a long time I wanted to clock the turbo down to reduce the intercooler pipes. The problem with my setup is that the in order to do same I have to modify the radiator coolant lines that go behind the AC compressor and power steering. They sit right below the turbo. I decided to tackle on the intercooler pipes project first and then work on my own coolant reroute. I also wanted to build a kit designed by me using stock mazda parts and as simple as possible. I have seen other set ups and kits out there and they are simply complicated and expensive. My set up was designed to be simple and cost effective. I was able to reduce the intercooler pipes from 6 to 4 and radiator fresh coolant lines from 3 to 1. The reroute kit set up looks stock, and I didn't have to modify anything from the back of the engine. If you are not a mazda fan "unless you look carefully" you will not be able to notice the difference. My idea on the coolant reroute is that fresh coolant should be rerouted as far away as the exhaust as possible. I don't have power steering and AC, if you used the Protege water pump inlet housing (idea from Sebastian), the lower coolant hose will seat at least 2 feet from the exhaust. You can also seek answers with the Mercury Capri or leave the stock Miata part but that's up to you. Many of the parts including in my setup I already had but they are easy to get. The most complicated part of this project if you a 1.6 is to find a place to put the thermostat switch in the back of the engine. Because I have a 1.6 to 1.8 conversion from a protege engine my T-switch was already there. The rest of this project was piece of cake.
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olderguy 10-22-2008 09:50 PM

If I understand what he did, he will be putting in another conversion motor soon.

leatherface24 10-22-2008 10:03 PM

lol

MX_Eva 10-22-2008 10:51 PM

I retract my earlier statement.

After re-diagnosing. It will indeed do nothing. He's going to draw hot water into the pump around the radiator...and need a new motor in not much time.

m2cupcar 10-22-2008 11:22 PM

I think he's missing the point on the reroute. He's mentioning exhaust heat as though it's making the coolant hot... The object is to get a more even flow of coolant through the engine (block and head). That's why a reroute moves the primary coolant exit to the back of the head.

kotomile 10-22-2008 11:53 PM

I'm not sure what exactly he changed...

MazDilla 10-23-2008 02:24 AM

:facepalm:

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Seriously though, tell him he needs to re-plumb the heater core return.

At first glance major pwnage is imminent, but if you look closely he is still connecting the lower coolant inlet to the lower rad outlet (which is fine), but his choice of heater *ahem* "return" paths is questionable. This arrangement appears to have him injecting the hottest coolant into the back of the head all the time (not good).

This potentially makes the marginal #4 cooling situation worse. The result could range from disappointing to disastrous.



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Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 322702)
I think he's missing the point on the reroute. He's mentioning exhaust heat as though it's making the coolant hot... The object is to get a more even flow of coolant through the engine (block and head). That's why a reroute moves the primary coolant exit to the back of the head.

m2cucar nailed it, the guy totally missed the point and did not achieve the re-route prime directive. The guy just moved his lower rad hose out of the way of his IC pipes and goofed the heater routing in the process.

leatherface24 10-23-2008 09:06 AM

lets let the distaster happen. He is totally insistant he knows what hes doing.

levnubhin 10-23-2008 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 322702)
I think he's missing the point on the reroute. He's mentioning exhaust heat as though it's making the coolant hot... The object is to get a more even flow of coolant through the engine (block and head). That's why a reroute moves the primary coolant exit to the back of the head.



Thats exactly what I have been trying to tell him.
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m2cupcar 10-23-2008 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 322715)
I'm not sure what exactly he changed...

that's because:
The reroute kit set up looks stock...If you are not a mazda fan...you will not be able to notice the difference.

which means you're obviously a mazda hater :giggle:

kotomile 10-23-2008 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 322787)
which means you're obviously a mazda hater :giggle:

I... I didn't know. :cry:

Braineack 10-23-2008 09:57 AM

so....he moved the heater core outlet behind the thermostat?

levnubhin 10-23-2008 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 322795)
so....he moved the heater core outlet behind the thermostat?


pretty much.
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Braineack 10-23-2008 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 322797)
pretty much.

using his logic:
How does that even prevent extra "Heat soak" from the exhaust? Looks to me it travels in the same location, but the exit in on the front of the motor instead of the side.

using mine:
probably not the best place to put the heater core return....close, but missed it by an inch or so.

levnubhin 10-23-2008 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 322802)
using his logic:
How does that even prevent extra "Heat soak" from the exhaust? Looks to me it travels in the same location, but the exit in on the front of the motor instead of the side.

using mine:
probably not the best place to put the heater core return....close, but missed it by an inch or so.

I donno man. Dosent make sense to me.
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944obscene 10-23-2008 10:55 AM

Why not tap the radiator on both sides for water cooling? Tap the hot side for the return line and the cool side for the inlet line.

leatherface24 10-23-2008 11:01 AM

id rather just spend the cash and get the one from begi. at least i know it works and i wont be "experimenting" with my coolant.

levnubhin 10-23-2008 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 322817)
id rather just spend the cash and get the one from begi. at least i know it works and i wont be "experimenting" with my coolant.

When your ready just do what I did. Look up spacerless coolant reroute. Thats what I did and it cost about $30.
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KPLAFIN 10-23-2008 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 322817)
id rather just spend the cash and get the one from begi. at least i know it works and i wont be "experimenting" with my coolant.

Forget BEGi's coolant re-route, i you're going to do it, do it right with the solution to all your coolant problems

leatherface24 10-23-2008 11:21 AM

lol dumbass^^^


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