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JasonC SBB 04-06-2010 03:12 PM

Does trying to start car without ground strap damage alternator or ECU?
 
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sn95 04-06-2010 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 551497)
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Which groundstrap?

Firewall to engine (under brake master)
?
Powerplant frame to chassis?

ECU direct ground wire?

Sparetire 04-06-2010 06:11 PM

Short answer, probably not. As long as the ECU itself is grounded yu are probably OK. I drove one of my vehicles with the ground strap to the ex. just hanging off for like a year.

JasonC SBB 04-07-2010 12:42 AM

Near the dispstick.

The 99/00 doesn't have one between the PPF and chassis.

fooger03 04-07-2010 08:31 AM

cars with a stock real OPG will see the OPG stop working with that ground removed.

dgmorr 04-07-2010 09:16 AM

I forgot to put the ecu ground lug back on the intake manifold/valve cover area yesterday and ran the car around the block. Yeah....I was trying to figure out which plug was not firing and couldn't find it. So far everything seems to be ok.

hustler 04-07-2010 09:29 AM

I did this once with one of the GND straps off the trans after a swap and melted every ground wire in the car on my VW. That was a bad week.

JasonC SBB 04-07-2010 11:18 PM

Well the factory ECU's alternator control function, and the Innovate LC-1 wideband's analog output, are dead.

I installed my alternator control circuit in order to run the car.

webby459 04-07-2010 11:32 PM

Sorry to threadjack, but partially on topic and timely. Where are guys grounding the engine and ECU? My 1.6 had a ground lug on the back of the block, driver's side, my 1.8 does not. My ground cable won't reach to one of the 10 mil bolts on the front side of block for unused brackets. I'm thinking about maybe running this cable to the driver's side engine mount bolt, then wiring up a lugged bond from one of the 10 mil bolts on the front, to the engine mount, to the back of the head, to the back of the intake mani. Then maybe I'll run another engine ground to body to the back of the head. IIRC, my MS was grounded to a lug on the back of the old intake mani from the 1.6. What think?

JasonC SBB 01-24-2011 12:23 PM

BTW a follow up, the answer to my own question is NO.

The LC1 needed reprogramming, the alternator somehow started charging again when I let the ECU control it again.


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