Ebay seats
 

Does anyone have experience with these seats?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=55126765756

Those seats look fuckhuge. I briefly skimmed the description and didn't see the dimensions -- if they're there, then I apologize. I would recommend inquiring the dimensions of the seats and, specifically, try to get a feel for the height (remember our cars our tiny).

Most people who buy seats off eBay just "splurge" and go for the Bride repos.

oh and you're a fag

I bought them. I'm cheap. They look decent, but I have no idea if they'll last.

Seats are hard, don't expect long trips to be comfortable. They fit my 36+" butt, and give pretty good lateral support. They're a very tight fit, and will rub on the tunnel. They will NOT mount up unless you make custom brackets of some sort. I used stock sliders and had adapters made at work.

I will eventually get rid of them and get better seats, but I needed something now, and didn't want to spring for Corbeaus right now.

I would be worried, about 2 things. 1 ebay seats, dont get in an accident with them if you like living. 2, I hate seats with shoulder wings they just push you out of the seat.

If you really want a cheap seat. Kirkey 09 Series Economy 20 Degree Layback Seat, 15-1/2 Inch Wide - Speedway Motors, America's Oldest Speed Shop Its what I run, best seat for not running a harness, you can run the thing with a lap belt only and it holds almost as well as a harness. I added some more foam under the ass and lower back and its the only car seat I've ever sat in where I can drive for 4 hours and not have my ass fall asleep or my back kill me when I get out. Only real negative is that people who dont drive kirkey's think you're and idiot and your back and ass get really ------- sweaty. They do require a "custom" bracket but its literally just some decently thick aluminum or steel flat stock going across the stock brackets.

How would a regular seat be any worse in a crash than stockers?

It has a locking tilt mechanism just like stock seats. It's made fairly robustly, but is slightly lighter, having a smaller seat pan underneath. No, it's not a racing seat. It's a replacement seat for the street.

Factory seat has been crash tested to a certain known standard.

Chinese seat is tested to hold up well enough to hold it's own shape while being mounted. Hopefully.

Looks like they're claiming they're racing seats. Its part quality that I would be worried about. Will the seat bolts tear out of the bottom? Will that locking ratchet fail in an accident? The OEM seats had to go through a lot more testing and meet higher standards than that seat. Even a reclining fia approved seat from a major brand I would be wary about because it doesnt have to meet as strict standards as an OEM piece.

The mounts on the bottom are definitely an issue: they're really weak aluminum with like 3-4 threads worth to hold the bolt. The rest is also fairly cheap and weak, which is why you're paying half price. But honestly I don't think this will change anything: if you get in a wreck in a miata a seat falling apart will be the last of your worries. I think having a roll bar is much more important, and its a no-brainer that these are in NOT meant for real racing.

Pics installed? I'm curious how huge they look.

Sit higher than stock?

Could always cut the humps and floor mount.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIDE-VIOS-L...ht_1927wt_1065
I have these eBay Racing seats and they are alright. Everyone creams their pants how awesome they look, but, after sitting in some super-duper-mega-awesome rigid "real" seats (like Sparco PRO2000, that seat makes my dick hard) they feel mediocre.

Still, cheap, work with 5/6pt harness, easy to clean, very comfortable, easy to mount into miata. Not super rigid but I think it's because I have them mounted on stock rails which have "play" to them

would it be stupid to use those with stock belts?
also how is fitment? are they super close to everything and/or rubbing, esp up top by the seat belt, or are these compact enough to fit good?

I dont see what would be stupid about using stock belts with them, unless they dont let the shoulder belt sit right, which is actually a problem with some racing seats.

Would you say these are comfortable enough to DD? Like extended road trips?

They are extremely comfortable if you fit in them. They are very uncomfortable if you don't (seat squeezes your hip bones, basically)

Longest I've done was 5 hours non-stop drive. I also have 5 point harnesses and no AC, cruise or stereo. So all my entertainment is the turbo :giggle:

This. They need to be tried.

That's a great justification for buying shitty parts. "Hey, the car is already dangerous so I might as well remove the seat belts" :rofl:

I consider seats a safety item and I wouldn't even consider buying a non-OEM seat that doesn't have a certification.

I just love how so many people are all about safety. Roll bars, not style bars. Certified harnesses and racing seats. And yet, they remove the airbag to put in a Momo steering wheel.

These ebay seats have the same recline mechanism I had in my Toyota. I'd be willing to bet they're nearly as strong as those seats were, too. It's not like they're going to explode underneath you.

go ahead and explain to me how one seat will keep you safer then another.

Cheaper seats are more likely to tear out of their mounts, cheap reclining seats are more likely to have the recline mechanism break in an accident. They're also more likely to flex in an accident and sometimes break in the middle if they dont tear out of their mounts. Hell I've seem one break before just accelerating.

I'm really not seeing your point.
Ok they'll break, they'll flex, but the roll bar will keep you from eating cement, and the belt/harness will still keep you from flying forward. So what part of the seat being cheap will kill you?

Harnesses only work if the seat is there to hold you to the seat. Leave 2 inches of slack in all the harness belts, same thing.

so again, WTF is your point? the seat isn't going to slide out from under you, pull itself from behind you, and disappear. The harness holds you to it. even with 2 inches of slack its still going nowhere.

So instead of trying to sound like a smart guy, why don't you either make a valid argument or stfu.
I'm all for quality items when quality is needed. In this case I'm desperately trying to get a valid argument against knockoff seats and you're failing at providing one.

Fine, I need to remember my pro-Darwinism stance anyways.

Air bags are designed to work with 3 points belts, not 6 point harnesses. If you contact an air bag with a harness you don't have it installed or adjusted properly.
Part of the FIA testing procedure simulates a backwards impact into the guardrail (showing the seat is strong enough not to break under the weight of the occupant). If a seat breaks or bends it could cause contact with the roll bar/cage and also allows the belts to loosen... which could become a huge deal depending on what happens next (rollover, contact with another car, etc)

Funny part is there are used FIA cert seats floating out there for good prices if you look around. I paid $150 for my brand new Momo Cup VTR and $80 for a Cobra Imola II with a couple cigarette burns.

The point is that, yes, in fact, the seat may no longer be underneath you. If the seat tears loose or breaks in some fashion in the initial impact, it is no longer supporting you during the rest of the crash. If the car then rolls, sure the rollbar still does its job, but the harness cannot, because you are sliding around underneath it. To expect the harness to hold both you and an unsupported seat in place through any kind of further impact is simply unrealistic. The harness is supposed to hold you to the structure, and the structure in that equation is the seat. Putting a seat of completely unknown build quality underneath you, with homemade mounts made from mild untreated steel and random bolts from Lowe's Home Racing Dept, is playing russian roulette, even on the street.

Soviet does it with the taiwan Brides he uses, and gets away with it without getting any crap because, well, he's Soviet, and russian roulette is part of his cultural heritage.

Yes, look for the real road racers, they have to replace their seats constantly because the SCCA put a limit on how long seats are good for, or some garbage. I can understand putting an expiration date on harnesses and fire suites because UV light does break down those materials, but not seats.