Failed smog today.. What should i do guys?
Before i dove into the forced inducted world i figured ide get my car smoged since i had another 4 week to complete it. I put the stock AFM, ecu and air filter all back on. Figured ide by just fine, however that is not the case.
During the 15 and 25 mph driving on the machine my No(PPM) numbers were a bit too high. The average at 15 mph is 237 and the max is 847 while my 90 did 989 and at 25 mph the average is 199 max is 786 while my numbers were at a high of 953. The tech said it was most likely my cat causing the high numbers and stated that on a personal level i should possibly retard the timing, get a new cat and run 91 fuel. It has stock header/cat (original 106k miles) and a magnaflow muffler. The timing is advanced to 14 degrees while on the stock ecu. For those of you who have failed smog what have you done to fix it? Thanks all |
too lean, too advanced.
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I was thinking of throwing the megasquirt back in and tuning it a bit richer in the "15 mph and 25 mph" zones and giving it another shot. What is your guy's suggestion on my timing map, throw it all into 10 degrees just to be safe?
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set the timing back to 10 and try again on the stock ecu, if it still no good you may need a new cat
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Did you make sure the CAT was hot and didn't cool down before test... i know that it will help an older unit to work better.
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retard timing and it should clean it up some.
if all else fails move to another state. |
Brainey's right. All else being equal, high NOx is a byproduct of increased in-cylinder temp / pressure, which can be indicative of a lean mixture or overly advanced timing. Since we know your timing is too advanced, dial it back to maybe 8 degrees BTDC at warm idle with the TEN-GND jumper. 91 octane will also slow the burn a little and should help NOx as well.
What were your HC and CO numbers? Those will give us an indication as to how the mixture is running. Some helpful info: http://www.firstfives.org/faq/smog/smog_faq.html |
My hc numbers were as follows:
15 mph was @ 63 w/ a max of 134 and average of 31 25 mph was @ 56 w/ a max of 108 and an average of 20 CO numbers were as follows: 15 mph was @ .17 with a max of .82 and an average of .1 25 mph was @ .19 with a max of .71 and an average of .09 Ill manually retard the timing to 8* BTDC and go in for a re test tomorrow afternoon, thanks all Edit: Cat was hot, well it idled for about 3 min before getting put to the test after a 10 min drive to the local test only station. |
Damn, i'm soooooo happy i live in FL...
Hope u pass on the next one |
Hmmmm. Based on the HC numbers you're not running ultra-lean, so I'm thinking it's either the timing, or the cat is on its way out.
Retarding the timing should help, a tankful of 91/93 octane fuel might also add a slight edge. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 250866)
Hmmmm. Based on the HC numbers you're not running ultra-lean, so I'm thinking it's either the timing, or the cat is on its way out.
Retarding the timing should help, a tankful of 91/93 octane fuel might also add a slight edge. Edit: Post number 420 w00t |
Originally Posted by thesnowboarder
(Post 250884)
Im going to retard it back to 10* tomorrow and hope that works, i use CA's best pump gas all the time, lame 91
Edit: Post number 420 w00t |
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