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Marty 02-02-2008 08:58 PM

Fire System Group Buy
 
OK, so NOPI is requiring these this season. The cheapest I found was $349 @ SafeRacer, but Firecharger www.firecharger.com has systems for $199. As always, they might give us a break if we have a big order. Would anyone be interested? It's a 5lb(2.3L) 2 nozzle system.

magnamx-5 02-02-2008 09:01 PM

Nopi how fast would we have to go to need these 10's?

Marty 02-02-2008 09:05 PM

NOPI Drift.

miatamania 02-02-2008 09:17 PM

As if the pink car going sideways in his sig doesn't give it off....;)

thebeerbaron 02-02-2008 09:21 PM

this is an interesting system, i'd be amazed that one little CO2 bulb could do an effective job at suppressing a fire. any idea if this meets the standards for any sanctioning bodies, or what it does to the harnesses/aluminum/plastic it hits? one of the advantages of Halon and its clones is the lack of collateral damage.

Marty 02-02-2008 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by thebeerbaron (Post 208472)
this is an interesting system, i'd be amazed that one little CO2 bulb could do an effective job at suppressing a fire. any idea if this meets the standards for any sanctioning bodies, or what it does to the harnesses/aluminum/plastic it hits? one of the advantages of Halon and its clones is the lack of collateral damage.


This is the $349 one at SafeRacer. The C02 cartridge looks the same as the FireCharger one to me.

http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/P/2313_1_lg.gif


Here's an install article from Grassroots

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/new...-saga-ep-1.php

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/new...-saga-ep-2.php

Arkmage 02-02-2008 09:36 PM

I'd like one as well. Not required, but when it comes to safety equipment I usually try to aim higher than the requirement.

Matt [exz3owner] 02-04-2008 02:20 AM

I am getting a fire system for the time attack car shortly as well.

however, I am getting Halon. The other stuff ruins anything it touches, and I don't want to have to rewire if some dummy accidentally sets off the system.

emilio700 02-04-2008 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by Matt [exz3owner] (Post 208965)
I am getting a fire system for the time attack car shortly as well.

however, I am getting Halon. The other stuff ruins anything it touches, and I don't want to have to rewire if some dummy accidentally sets off the system.

How many sources are there for Halon now?

magnamx-5 02-04-2008 08:09 AM

None and it still costs a shit laod of money. Becouse they can't make it anymore damn CFC regs :vash: halon is some valitile shit guys, and if you put it in a street car you would be violating some major epa shit. I think you still need a license to even handle/install the shit.

Markp 02-04-2008 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 208995)
None and it still costs a shit laod of money. Becouse they can't make it anymore damn CFC regs :vash: halon is some valitile shit guys, and if you put it in a street car you would be violating some major epa shit. I think you still need a license to even handle/install the shit.

I wonder how much my full halon bottle is worth (5 Lb), I still have a system that I have never used with a full bottle.

Mark

Marty 02-04-2008 12:51 PM

OK, Just got off the phone with FireCharger. They will offer a group buy on the 5lb. (2.3L) 2 Nozzle system!

The prices are as follows:

10-20 Units: $172.00


20-or more Units: $140.00

Shipping is a flat $20 for FedEx Insured Ground Shipping

They have the quantity on hand, so as soon as I give them the exact quantity they will ship!!!!! Fast Turn-around time!

If you guys have any questions, here is all my contact info.

Jonathan Martin
jdm26@comcast.net
770-598-3958

My PayPal is info@rspeed.net


Thanks!

magnamx-5 02-04-2008 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Markp (Post 209046)
I wonder how much my full halon bottle is worth (5 Lb), I still have a system that I have never used with a full bottle.

Mark

Well if R12 is any indication that shit sells for 50-60$ a lbs. You could probably find a firesafe company to buy it for sure.

Arkmage 02-04-2008 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Marty (Post 209154)
OK, Just got off the phone with FireCharger. They will offer a group buy on the 5lb. (2.3L) 2 Nozzle system!

The prices are as follows:

10-20 Units: $172.00


20-or more Units: $140.00

Shipping is a flat $20 for FedEx Insured Ground Shipping

Put me down as a maybe @ $172 and a definitely @ $140.

If I bite or not at $172 is dependent on how much other crap I have to unexpectedly spend money on around the time of sending money in for this.

I have a friend who may also want in on it @ $140 for his MR-2, I'll get back to you.

Marty 02-04-2008 03:05 PM

OK, more group buy info. I contacted FireCharger again, they are willing to do a buy on the 10lb (4.6L) 3 nozzle system as well


10-20 Units: $233

20-plus Units: $195

Same Shipping Price

Arkmage 02-04-2008 03:31 PM

also 2.3L system?

Marty 02-04-2008 03:34 PM

10lb (4.6L)

Arkmage 02-04-2008 03:56 PM

just looked it up... I'll probably stick with the smaller system for size reasons. I have no idea where I'll mount it since I use my trunk and my soft top. I might see if I can make it fit above the passenger's foot well somewhere.

Loki047 02-04-2008 04:23 PM

I am in at 140

Marty 02-05-2008 11:50 AM

OK, another Fire Charger update. They will honor the group buy price for either system! 2 $140 or 3 nozzle $195, it doesn't matter! I have about 18 tentative people, and I'll post a list tonight. I plan on closing this group buy on Feb 15th.

Thanks!

Arkmage 02-05-2008 12:51 PM

Going to contact my friend and see if he wants in. I'll let you know tonight.

Mark Mlow down as a maybe. He's got some equipment he needs to sell before he makes the final decision. But he's very interested. If he's got the cash he'll buy in.

Marty 02-05-2008 05:00 PM

Arkmage, I need your email address and real name, and your buddy's too. You too loki047.

Thanks!


jdm26@comcast.net

Marty 02-06-2008 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Marty (Post 209823)
Arkmage, I need your email address and real name, and your buddy's too. You too loki047.

Thanks!


jdm26@comcast.net



:inout:

MX5-4me 02-06-2008 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 208971)
How many sources are there for Halon now?

There shouldn't be any sense they stopped producing new Fire suppression systems somewhere in the late 80's early 90's and started using FM-200 and other alternatives.

http://www.reliablefire.com/halon/halon.html

kotomile 02-06-2008 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by thebeerbaron (Post 208472)
this is an interesting system, i'd be amazed that one little CO2 bulb could do an effective job at suppressing a fire. any idea if this meets the standards for any sanctioning bodies, or what it does to the harnesses/aluminum/plastic it hits? one of the advantages of Halon and its clones is the lack of collateral damage.

I know chlorine gas is corrosive, but unless I'm mistaken, CO2 is safe. If I'm wrong about that though, better not open any sodas or exhale in your car. :eek:

Ben 02-06-2008 05:35 PM

the job of the suppression system is to put the fire out, aka save you from injury or death. if there's a fire, who gives a rat's a about what happens to some plastic trim.

MX5-4me 02-06-2008 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 210452)
the job of the suppression system is to put the fire out, aka save you from injury or death. if there's a fire, who gives a rat's a about what happens to some plastic trim.

I'm guessing they are worried about accidental deploy but yeah i totally agree..

I’ve used FM-200 for about 5 systems they were all seal systems which requires much less per cubic feet (think Data Center application). I'm not certain how it works on something like an engine bay. It is non-toxic non-corrosive.

Arkmage 02-06-2008 07:02 PM

Buddy is out... his other deal fell through so he's going to be broke. PM'ing you my info.

crashnscar 02-06-2008 08:19 PM

I'm down for one for sure, just need to decide between 2 or 3 nozzle system.

Marty 02-06-2008 08:53 PM

Name and email address please.

Savington 02-07-2008 05:24 AM

Tenatively in for a 3-nozzle system. If I decide to commit I will PM name and email.

Marty 02-07-2008 09:00 AM

Thanks!

Marty 02-11-2008 01:37 PM

Incase I missed your e-mail. Here is what I just sent out.

Hello all!



Sorry for the delay in this e-mail. This e-mail is in regards to the FireCharger fire system group buy I have arranged. I’ll go over all ordering information and answer the questions I have received.



Questions. Some people required some additional information. See below:



· You may order as many systems as you want, however the shipping cost is still $20 per system

· Initial charge and re-charge kits: The system comes with one (1) charge and refill kits are available at a discount. Recharge kits include both the AFFF Foam and the C02 charge. No shipping fees for refill kits if you are ordering a system. See prices below

· Braided lines: Braided lines are not being offered, I am sorry.

· Additional nozzles: Additional nozzle kits are available at a discount. Both system can easily accommodate an additional nozzle. No shipping fees for nozzle kits if you are ordering a system. See prices below

· Sanctioning body legality: AFFF Foam Suppression is recognized by all sanctioning bodies



Prices. These prices are valid if we have 20 or more orders. Over 35 people have expressed interest so I don’t think the prices below will change. I will inform everyone if there are any changes. The price breakdown for systems and re-charge kits and nozzle kits are as follows:



· 2.3L (5lbs) 2 Nozzle System: $140 plus $20 Shipping = $160 Total

· 4.6L (10lbs) 3 Nozzle System: $195 plus $20 Shipping = $195 Total

· 2.3L Recharge Kit: $40 No shipping fee if ordering a system

· 4.6L Recharge Kit: $50 No shipping fee if ordering a system

· Additional Nozzle Kit: $30 No shipping fee if ordering a system



Ordering. I accept PayPal and credit cards. If paying by Credit Card, please contact me for ordering information. Please send PayPal payment to info@rspeed.net In the “Subject” line please include “FireCharger Group Buy.” In the “Message” field please include all the items you require, your contact information and email address.





If you have any questions please see my contact information below. I will close ordering for this Group Buy on Monday, February 18th and submit the order to FireCharger on Tuesday, February 19th. Once I have received the systems, they will be shipped to you via FedEX Insured Ground. A tracking number will be sent to the email address of your PayPal, unless instructed otherwise.



Thank you everyone for this overwhelming interest and let’s have a safe racing season and hope we never have to use these!







Jonathan “Marty” Martin

Jdm26@comcast.net

770-598-3958

PayPal: info@rspeed.net

MX5-4me 02-11-2008 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Marty (Post 212462)

· 4.6L (10lbs) 3 Nozzle System: $195 plus $20 Shipping = $195 Total

New Math ?

Marty 02-11-2008 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by MX5-4me (Post 212465)
New Math ?

D'oh! $215


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