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Old 10-23-2007, 01:26 PM
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heya few of you will prob of read a previous post of mine asking if anyone had done this before (fitted a 1.8 hotwire maf sensor on a 1.6 without stand alone)

anyway after a few people said it wasn't possible i thought id give it a go after about 8hours messing with an oscilloscope and a voltmeter and a voltage inversion modual i got the thing to run but was rather lumpy so i took it for a run and it didn't really run all that great and seemed to have a few flat spots

so ill stand corrected it wont work not correctly anyway

but goin on to what some one mentioned in my previous post im using a HKS F-con mini (picture below) a member said i dont need a air flow meter and am able to use a map sensor can someone tel me if this is correct and how i go about doin it thanks lee
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:41 PM
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I believe it only works in conjunction with the HKS VPC which is no longer available.

I originally thought that's what you had and not the F-Con.
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does anyone know if i am just able to remove it completely if i connect the fuel pump relay switch wires together and connect up a temperature sensor to the appropriate wires
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does anyone know if i am just able to remove it completely if i connect the fuel pump relay switch wires together and connect up a temperature sensor to the appropriate wires
Sure you can, just don't expect your car to run.

What did you do for an AIT sensor during your "experiment"?
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Originally Posted by Ben
What did you do for an AIT sensor during your "experiment"?
i removed one from an old 1600 air flow meter and cut a hole in the pipe

since i posted above i have been doing a little more research into the voltage inversion modual i used and it appears it is the correct one for the job so i have bought a different one and ill try again

please any suggestions/constructive criticism are welcome
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lazzer, is that you?
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lazzer, is that you?

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This can be done with the proper electronics. I don't care what anyone says. But is it worth the time/effort?
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iv about given up on the idea to be honest i think iv been defeated ill just move my airflow meter out of sight either to inside the front bumper running a pipe from my turbo inlet and cut a hole in my inner wing and then run a pipe round (the longer pipe shouldn't affect it that much with it been forced induction) or in the scuttle panel and cut a hole behind my washer bottle(right hand drive) and refit the carbon fiber panel i have (this would also get alot more cool air)
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alot will prob. think im stupid and why not just run a stand alone
its not the fact i can't afford too its just that a friend is using a hydra nms on his and is having nothing but problems and seen as mine runs so well i would ideally just rather change a few little thing that a relatively in expensive and can be easily put back if the prove not to be any good
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my $300 Megasquirt has been working out just nicely :gay:


you could try fitting it doing something like this:





this is my fav:

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Hmm, any idea what size/model # that filter is?
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will prob. do something like that
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k&n Ru-5111, I believe I sold it to him :gay:
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i would watch out if you're gonna cut your wheel well like that. I orginally did and when i lowered my car with the 2" pipe in there it would rub hardcore. given that my car is retarted low it wouldnt of worked......for me.
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mine is stupidly low as wel so im gona av to check clearence before i start cutting holes

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