GB for pads/rotors and 1.8 upgrades!
 

So uh.. wishing I hadn't spent what I did to do my conversion... because this GB just came along over on CR.net

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewto...3f24a71f26801b

Great option for those with 1.6L brakes... you have no excuse keeping them now.

Whoa...definitely going to be giving them a call tomorrow. Question is...hps, hp, or blue?

I used to get such a good deal with Hawk...so pissed I dont have my discount still.

I think imma call them tomorrow, what pads should I get?

i hated the hps on the street...

i love my hp+s but they are loud as shit (but i have no backing plates, clips, springs, or anti-squel glue)

I need blues soon I'm going to the track in a month.

I went ahead and jumped on this. :bigtu:
I was concerned that the cost of shipping rotors would eat up any savings on the brackets, but it didn't end up being that bad.
Probably saved $40 over buying the pads on ebay, rotors at NAPA, and sourcing brackets.

How much was it total, and what pads did you go with, if you don't mind my asking?

Went with HPS, as my car is mostly for the street. They're well mannered yet fairly grippy, easy on the rotors, quiet, and not dusty. And they will sruvive just fine the 2x per year I put the car on the track.

I don't think you'd want the HP+ for daily driving with your BBS wheels. If you're looking for street pads, go with the HPS. If you want track pads, go with the Blues.

Total was 140 for pads/rotors + 25 brackets + 25 shipping to the commercial address.
If you want, you can add your order to mine and split shipping.

Ben

I want everyones opinion, I got the 1.6 hps currently on front, how much better will the hp+ with the 1.8 feel, anyone have experience with this?

i went from 1.6 HPS to 1.8 HP+, the difference was like trying to stop a Mac truck vs. a go-kart.

two things you have to deal with: noise levels and dust.

I just remembered that I have some axis ultimates that I bought like ages ago that I never put on. So I just placed an order for just the brackets. I'll pick up some rotors from whoever has them cheapest around here once the brackets come in.

I may just do that when I get the time today. I'll let you know if I do.

I just registered there... but can't access my email until I get home to confirm. Can you post the deal so we can see it here. What do i get and what does it cost? Thanks, Sam.

[QUOTE;111100]Ok guys just reading some requests for brake group buy. Here is the club roadster group buy for brakes.
HAWK HPS w/ free rotors. $69.99
HAWK HP+ w/ free rotors. $79.99
HAWK BLUE w/ free rotors. $99.99
prices are front or rear!!
Stainless Steel brake lines $95.99
1.8l brake upgrade kit for $25.00

Order a set of HAWK hps or hp+ pads and get free rotors. We also knocked off $10 per set.Prices for stainless brake lines and 1.8 brackets are with the purchase of pads.
If you were to purchase the complete set of pads, rotors and lines you will save over $90.00.
NO NEED TO PUT YOURSELF ON A LIST OR PM ME. JUST GIVE US A CALL AT 1-866-296-1100
THis price wont last forever so act fast!!
Hours are m-th 9-6
f 8-5 est.[/QUOTE]

Are those salvage caliper brackets or something they have fabricated? $25 seems like a real bargain!

salvage

I just ordered HPS/rotors front and rear, plus the uprgrade brackets. Total as listed $163 + about $20 for shipping. Should be here early next week. There just aren't any good salvage yards near here or I would have done this a long time ago.

Maybe. But I haven't been able to find just the caliper brackets for a good price, and I've been looking for a LONG time. I even had a WTB ad on m.net for 5-6 months.

is this the fucked up 1.8 brake convo where you have to turn the 1.6 caliper upside down? I'd buy this shit, but I'm thinking I'll be better off with 1.8 calipers since I'm going to push the 1.8 brakes to their limits.

There is no difference between calipers NA1.6 & NA1.8

installation instructions in the DIY projects thread.

Are the HPS close to the Axxis Ultimates? I know I am going to need new rotors this time around and will need new pads before too long and might jump on this just to save some $$ if the HPS are close enough.
-Michael-

^You might get some good responses here... but for more threads on brake pads than you can read in a day, go to m.net in the "suspension, handling, brakes" forum. I did a quick search, and the overwhelming opinion is that the HPS pads are awesome for the street and will perform well at the occasional trackday. Get the HP+'s for DD duty plus full-time weekend autocross warrior, and the BLUE's for track only.

Yes, yes, yes, you can use the +'s as a DD only pad, but apparently they dust like crazy and sqeal like a chick rocking an Ipod Dildo adapter.

How each brand of pad compares to another is also a hot topic, with people swearing up and down that one pad is better than another with statistical analysis done by NASA to prove it. For me, my rotors and pads are currently 1.6 OEM STOCK! I've got the Goodridge lines... but going from that to 1.8's w/RPS... gotta say I'm really looking forward to it.

I have hp+. They are loud and dusty...but I don't care.

Necropost bitches!!!!

So I finally got to the brake job today, after only 6 months or so. With Dan's help we tore into the job. It's so easy, the larger brackets just bolt up. I had always assumed that there was actually something difficult involved, but it's really not any different from doing a standard brake job, with exception of a little massaging of the rear shields, which only took a few minutes.

Here's the problem: Planet Miata sent me 3 1.8 brackets and 1 1.6 bracket. :td: :nono: I am missing the bracket I am supposed to use on the driver's front (which would have been the passenger's front on a 1.8 car, but you swap sides to do the swap). We did not realize that we didn't have the correct bracket for the driver's side until after the passenger's side was complete, and the driver's side was torn down. So we had to reinstall the 1.6 front brakes again. :mad:

I'm calling Planet Miata first thing Monday. Hopefully they will be cool and replace the incorrect bracket they sent me.

Positive side: Dan's car fired up and runs great again. He needed a coil pack, which he got from Paul. Thanks Paul.

Was wondering what happened. Glad I could help.


I shoulda charged so I could get a seller review in the appropriate forum. :)

haha, good looking out...lol
seller review coming soon, im still composing it, lol

Planet Miata is sending me the correct bracket. :)

free over night shipping? do you have to send the other one back?

Regular UPS shipping
Yes
Got a t-shirt too

No complaints from me.

I like when i get their lollipops

good pads ftw!

cool deal, as long as they made it ok its all good

i had hp+ all around when i did the conversion at first, they are super loud. Now i am running HPS in front, and HP+ in the rear(sill a bit noisy), works pretty well.

I love me some HPS's.

Dnace... banned for using single-word responses?

btw, i fuggin HATE axxis ultimates. they dust like mofos even on the rears. if they stopped as well as the HP+, i'd understand, but they aren't significantly d'frent from my OEM Honduh pads. piss me off.

the HP+ for $80 + free rotors was a killer bargain. great pads, dusty but damnit they work.

Ultimates make a nice street/autox pad... not much else.

I personally prefer Cobalt Friction pads above all else for anything resembling track usage.

I've also got a set of EBC greenstuff pads... but none of that matters w/o the bracket

Ben, I wouldn't take the HPS pads on the track. I faded HP+s at stock power on street tires. :(

These are for the street only. Might also try an autocross next year, to see what the hub-bub is about. I got a set of EBC greenstuff also for street use, because I understand they dust less than the Hawks. That's not normally a big deal to me, but there is a complete outdoor watering ban. I also got a set of either blues or blacks (don't remember) for track use for next year.

Last year I washed my cars weekly even through the watering ban because the penalties had no teeth. This year, you can go to jail. At the rate water is leaving our reservoir compared to the rate it's entering, they say most of metro atlanta could be out of water in 2 months.

UPS just dropped off a set of front 1.8 brackets LOL

I dont know where that rumor came from, I never had to flip anything

My Axxius ultimates stop like a mother. I even had people impressed with thier stopping distances that have "better" pads than do.

They do dust like a mofo, and that sucks when you have polished lips. They stay clean for like 3 days.

You flip and swap the calper brackets around, IE FR 1.8 becomes FL on 1.6, RR 1.8 becomes RL 1.6 etc. Which *might* make it harder to access the bleeder, but I didn't try so :dunno:
I'll report back in a few days once I have time to finish this up.

once again i never had to do that. just put them on

"When it comes time to install the caliper brackets, make sure the slider pins remain on the same side as before. If you're putting 1994-2002 brakes on a 1990-1993, this means the brackets will have to be swapped side to side." -- Tanner, Keith. Mazda Miata MX-5 Performance Projects. St. Paul: Motorbooks/MBI Publishing Co., 2003. p84

BTW, I did this 1.5 weeks ago, and remember well. How long ago did you do it?

I dont care what keith says, I know what I did. I did not flip anything. ask around some people say yes, some say no. I know mine fit on my 92 with no flipping, because I was asking the same question.

Did you pull the 1.8 brackets off the car yourself, or otherwise know with certainty the original position of the brackets as you installed them onto your 92? The 1.8 brackets are swapped to the opposite side on the 1.6. They only bolt up one way, and it's frackin obvious. It's not rocket science here.

They were bought as repleacment 1.8 parts. And installed at a tech day with a spec miata builder watching. I know brake sizes changed on the 1.8's does anyone if the way the caliper was changed because I never flipped anything.

For christsake dude. Now I understand why Philip hates you. Lack of reading comprehension FTL

http://www.bigllama.com/miata/brake/bigbrake.htm says:

WTF man, i know what i did F-u

You don't listen man. That last quote sums it up beautifully: The calipers will only bolt up one way, so if you installed 1.8 brakes on your former 1.6, you followed this procedure. I don't give a rat's a if you remember doing it or not; you still did it. You didn't have a special, one off 92 miata, made with hybridized brake components that didn't exist until 94. And why the fuck are you arguing that you did it wrongly anyway?