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vplukas101 04-10-2012 11:34 PM

getting past emissions? loop hole?
 
I have a 04 MSM that im slowly turning into a track toy. I dont have room for a truck with trailer so registering it as a racecar is out of the question because then i couldn't drive it to and from events. I will be getting a MS and once i do it will make my car impossible to get past the OBD2 scan{how IL does emission tests} What are my options? Buy a pre 95 miata swap the vins? Need some ideas

Stein 04-10-2012 11:41 PM

1: Move to a non-inspection state
2: sack up and buy another car and make this BECAUSE RACECAR
3: Don't mod past the point where you can't pass inspection.

Don't really see any magic bullet.

I do enjoy throwing a V8 into my car and titling it without even a sniff. "V8? Well, that's nice. That will be $32.50. Next!"

When I titled it was black. I said "can you title it as silver? It's not silver, but it's going to be someday."

"Sure, no problem."

Bryce 04-10-2012 11:52 PM

There are people who can get you an inspection for a premium. Who they are, I don't know.

vplukas101 04-11-2012 12:03 AM

buying a daily in 2 months and this will be because racecar, just have to drive it to events ------- HATE IL

vplukas101 04-11-2012 12:04 AM

and if you ever drove a MSM you would realize that its retarded and needs a ecu

Stein 04-11-2012 12:13 AM

Haven't driven one, but from what I have heard you are on the right track with the MS. Trying to mod and staying with the factory ECU is failaids.

18psi 04-11-2012 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 862425)
1: Move to a non-inspection state
2: sack up and buy another car and make this BECAUSE RACECAR
3: Don't mod past the point where you can't pass inspection.

Don't really see any magic bullet.

I do enjoy throwing a V8 into my car and titling it without even a sniff. "V8? Well, that's nice. That will be $32.50. Next!"

When I titled it was black. I said "can you title it as silver? It's not silver, but it's going to be someday."

"Sure, no problem."

so effin jelly.......:vash:

Stein 04-11-2012 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 862438)
so effin jelly.......:vash:

Wait until I title the SAAB.

"So let me get this straight. It used to be a front wheel drive V4 1968 SAAB. Now it is a RWD turbocharged I-4 with three times the horsepower of the original car.

OK, sounds good to me. That will be $25 because the 1968 is a classic. Drive safe!"



Pretty much something along those lines. The lady that takes my money at the little local courthouse is the same little old lady that took my money when I bought my first car - a 71 Buick Skylark. For $75. In 1981. lol.

Bryce 04-11-2012 12:38 AM

Driving an MSM is like driving a stock-exhausted bandaid setup. I don't know how Mazda screwed up so much with their ECU, but they did.

stinkycheezmonky 04-11-2012 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 862448)
Driving an MSM is like driving a stock-exhausted bandaid setup. I don't know how Mazda screwed up so much with their ECU, but they did.

They screwed up even worse with the MSP. ------- hate that POS ECU.

OP, first, there are way worse states than IL. You don't have required safety inspections for one, and cars older than 20 (?) years don't have the emissions requirement. The problem is not with the state, it is with your choice of too-new a car to be a racecar. There is a possibility that you could find a shady shop to pass the emissions test, but the system might be automated enough by now that its impossible. MD has changed in the last few years, and faking emissions is no longer an option.

Second, would it be possible to disconnect MS for the emissions test? You should only need that once every two years, should be very straightforward to fudge briefly.

Do NOT swap VINs from another car. That is super illegal.

skidude 04-11-2012 08:57 AM

I fear I will have the same problem if I move to Utah later this year. The area I am looking at living requires emissions testing and I have built my car around Maine's complete lack of emissions laws. I have heard there are ways around it where you register your car in other counties, but I don't know the logistics of all that. I know my car is well past the point of no return when it comes to emissions, though.

2ndGearRubber 04-11-2012 10:29 AM

DD with megasquirt. Swap in the stock ECU about 200 miles before the inspection to make sure it's in "ready" mode. Pass emissions, re-install megaquirt. As long as your mods are reasonable, the stock ECU could still control the car, but I'd be careful boosting with it.


Oh, you could also wire in megasquirt parallel to the stock ECU. Keep OBDII and have total control..... like a baus.

adamvanxxx 04-11-2012 10:36 AM

Just pay a guy for a sticker. That is how my NJ friends do it $150 and they pass inspection.

vplukas101 04-11-2012 11:03 AM

IL has it wear they plug a obd scanner in the port and see if you dont have codes, no stickers or anything, I think im going to find a friend that lives in bufu and give him some money to register my car there.

adamvanxxx 04-11-2012 11:38 AM

Just move to indiana no emissions or front plates.

MartinezA92 04-11-2012 11:41 AM

Lol.
You should be extremely happy that you don't live in California.

fmowry 04-11-2012 01:36 PM

Just passed MD OBDII emissions in my '01 with LS6 swap. Miata VIN in the GM ECU.

Not that it helps the OP though.

In MD if you take it to an emissions repair shop and pay $450+ towards getting it to pass emissions you can get a 2 year waiver.

midpack 04-11-2012 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndGearRubber (Post 862572)
DD with megasquirt. Swap in the stock ECU about 200 miles before the inspection to make sure it's in "ready" mode. Pass emissions, re-install megaquirt. As long as your mods are reasonable, the stock ECU could still control the car, but I'd be careful boosting with it..

This is my plan. I figure even with an upgraded turbo I can wire the wastegate open, make minimal boost and still run as safely as the stock ECU ever did. At least we have an ECU that expects a turbo attached, even if it is retarded. There is a post somewhere on m-s.com with instructions on making the ECU ready quicker than the normal 200 miles.

That or buy some property out in the sticks and "move", our OBD inspections aren't state wide.

darkcambria 04-11-2012 02:56 PM

In PA you can skip emissions testing if you drive >5k miles a year. You just have to have it registered for a full year before you start that.

I'm shooting for that next year so I don't have to tear the Hydra out again and swap injectors and put the MAF back in.

fmowry 04-11-2012 03:06 PM

I take it you mean less than 5K a year?


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