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jbotelho15 07-28-2017 10:20 PM

Is this a good "budget" setup? (Under 3k)
 
My car,
1995 with PS no A/C
Megan Racing Catback
Jackson Racing Intake (never installed it just recently got it from a trade)

My planned setup (Hoping to get a 0-60 of 6s? which is about as fast as a stock frs/brz, s2k etc, not sure what that translate into hp numbers and what not) I do not track it and I never will its just a weekend toy. Im looking for an easy to install, reliable, budget setup
Used JR M45 S/C $1500? (seems to be the average asking price I see around)
Mega Squirt 2 PNP $800 (Does anyone make and sell them for less?
AEM Wideband $180
Yellow RX8 injectors $100
OBX Resonator (Cat delete) $80
ebay 4-1 stainless Header : $95
heat wrap and shield for header: $145 (wrap and then track dog heat shield is it worth it?)
MAF and EGR delete: $0 (I know ill have to get a plate or whatever but thats cheap)

All this totals under $3k is there anything better for that budget?

chicksdigmiatas 07-28-2017 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430544)
My car,
1995 with PS no A/C
Megan Racing Catback
Jackson Racing Intake (never installed it just recently got it from a trade)

My planned setup (Hoping to get a 0-60 of 6s? which is about as fast as a stock frs/brz, s2k etc, not sure what that translate into hp numbers and what not) I do not track it and I never will its just a weekend toy. Im looking for an easy to install, reliable, cheapish setup
Used JR M45 S/C $1500? (seems to be the average asking price I see around)
Mega Squirt 2 PNP $800 (Does anyone make and sell them for less?
AEM Wideband $180
Yellow RX8 injectors $100
OBX Resonator (Cat delete) $80
ebay 4-1 stainless Header : $95
heat wrap and shield for header: $145 (wrap and then track dog heat shield is it worth it?)
MAF and EGR delete: $0 (I know ill have to get a plate or whatever but thats cheap)
Professional Tune: $500 (I've been told to expect that much and its a good idea to have it properly tuned when all said and done)

All this totals at or under $3k is there anything better for that budget?

How about no m45, mk turbo set up. Then tune yourself and get an intercooler. Plus, get money back by selling your intake and exhaust.

No way your hitting sub 0-60 on a m45. Because my truck would smoke a miata with a m45, and it does 0-60 in a touch under 6 in 2wd.

18psi 07-28-2017 11:37 PM

What's this new fad where every other n00b is wanting the gayest crappiest supercharger known to mankind? If you want to be slow, just don't mod the car.

jbotelho15 07-29-2017 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1430558)
What's this new fad where every other n00b is wanting the gayest crappiest supercharger known to mankind? If you want to be slow, just don't mod the car.

okay any other suggestions to stay under 3k? The MK Turbo seems to be in budget... is it any good?

18psi 07-29-2017 12:23 AM

yup.

Lexzar 07-29-2017 12:54 AM

Buy the full kit he sells. Done. End of thread.

jbotelho15 07-29-2017 09:01 AM

Reviews anywhere? You guys have this system?

shuiend 07-29-2017 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430581)
Reviews anywhere? You guys have this system?

There is a thread in the forsale section with nearly 1500 posts in it. Plenty of reviews in there. Or go look at the build thread section and and see god knows how many threads from people using my mkturbo setup.

concealer404 07-29-2017 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430581)
Reviews anywhere? You guys have this system?

Nope nowhere. Literally everyone who has ever purchased and installed it has had their lips sealed and their hands taped at their side so they can't use a keyboard on the internet. It's a mystery.

You can't purchase it normally either. You have to leave Sacajawea dollars under your pillow every night until the Lars Fairy comes to visit.

ysleem 07-29-2017 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430581)
Reviews anywhere? You guys have this system?

I have the 1.6 setup and was one of the first to experience it. It transforms your car on a budget. You find yourself laughing a lot when that turbo kicks in. Just a great well balanced setup. I highly recommend it.

vitamin j 07-29-2017 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430581)
Reviews anywhere? You guys have this system?

I have it, it's awesome as hell for twice the price. Right now he's running a sale $3500 for literally everything you need to turbo your stock Miata including MS3. If you have $3k to spend on your Miata and you buy literally anything else you are retardus maximus.

farpolemiddle 07-30-2017 03:13 AM

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DNMakinson 07-30-2017 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 1430655)
I have it, it's awesome as hell for twice half the price.

FTFY

jbotelho15 07-30-2017 12:02 PM

I have a butterfly brace will this interfere with the kit's 3" exhaust? anyone know? I cant find a solid answer anywhere

ryansmoneypit 07-30-2017 12:06 PM

Least of your worries. Worst case you might need to hammer some stuff for clearance.

concealer404 07-30-2017 12:08 PM

Butterfly braces hit pretty much every aftermarket exhaust and are the most annoying things on the planet. I suggest you not let it deter you from glorious boost power. Throw out the butterfly brace if it doesn't clear.

jbotelho15 07-30-2017 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1430721)
Butterfly braces hit pretty much every aftermarket exhaust and are the most annoying things on the planet. I suggest you not let it deter you from glorious boost power. Throw out the butterfly brace if it doesn't clear.

I actually recently bought it and have yet to install it that really sucks :/ I could still use the frame rails though right? Also I do not want to mess with the clutch ir anything internally both engine and tranny wise. If my clutch were to go down the road then ill bring it to a shop and consider upgrading but for now I do not want to mess with anything internally. I imagine I would just have to limit the boost? what would be safe with stock internals and stock clutch? this is on my 95 so its the 1.8

concealer404 07-30-2017 12:54 PM

Don't want to do the clutch now? Then don't bother. It won't hold it.

And yes, you could still use the frame rails. They do 90% of the work for 10000000% less pain in the ass.

ridethecliche 07-30-2017 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430728)
I actually recently bought it and have yet to install it that really sucks :/ I could still use the frame rails though right? Also I do not want to mess with the clutch ir anything internally both engine and tranny wise. If my clutch were to go down the road then ill bring it to a shop and consider upgrading but for now I do not want to mess with anything internally. I imagine I would just have to limit the boost? what would be safe with stock internals and stock clutch? this is on my 95 so its the 1.8

My stock clutch held up fine at about 170-180 rear wheel, but it looked like shit when I swapped to the FM1 clutch.

A clutch is on the list of things to do when installing bewsty bits. The MKTurbo kit is designed to to work within the limits of the stock internals. The clutch is not considered to be part of the engine internals. It's a wear item. You don't need to install the clutch when you do the turbo install, but you're definitely going to slip the clutch at anything higher than like... 170-180 at the wheels. Why would you run the setup at 50ish hp less than its set up for?

I mean... I guess you could keep increasing the boost till you start slipping the clutch and then dial it back a couple of PSI... but that makes me sad.

Sell your butterfly brace and keep the frame rails...

vitamin j 07-31-2017 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by jbotelho15 (Post 1430544)
My car,
1995 with PS no A/C
Megan Racing Catback
Jackson Racing Intake (never installed it just recently got it from a trade)

My planned setup (Hoping to get a 0-60 of 6s? which is about as fast as a stock frs/brz, s2k etc, not sure what that translate into hp numbers and what not) I do not track it and I never will its just a weekend toy. Im looking for an easy to install, reliable, budget setup
Used JR M45 S/C $1500? (seems to be the average asking price I see around)
Mega Squirt 2 PNP $800 (Does anyone make and sell them for less?
AEM Wideband $180
Yellow RX8 injectors $100
OBX Resonator (Cat delete) $80
ebay 4-1 stainless Header : $95
heat wrap and shield for header: $145 (wrap and then track dog heat shield is it worth it?)
MAF and EGR delete: $0 (I know ill have to get a plate or whatever but thats cheap)

All this totals under $3k is there anything better for that budget?

You better buy this:


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1430831)
Last day of the sale. I think I have one spot left open currently.

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shuiend 07-31-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by vitamin j (Post 1430926)
You better buy this:

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I even have a NA 1.8 exhaust done and sitting on my shelf, since one person is backing out. So the OP should definitely contact me and ask about it.

x_25 08-01-2017 09:16 AM

As an M45 owner, either MK turbo or read more.and do a TD04 diy setup. That said, the low end grunt with the m45 is nice, but man does it run out of puff up top.

Efini~FC3S 08-01-2017 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by x_25 (Post 1431079)
That said, the low end grunt with the m45 is nice


FAKE NEWS!!

Engi-ninja 08-01-2017 10:05 AM

I've been researching/comparing turbo kits for the past 3 years, and the MK turbo kit is by far the best for the money. If he had been offering his full kit back when I first started collecting parts, I would have just bought it and been done with it. It's $2250 less than the FM, has a better ECU, uses v-bands, and doesn't require you to mangle your engine bay to fit the turbo. Honestly, I've seen people try to put together a "budget" kit from scratch and still end up paying more than the MK turbo kit due to buying things twice, not to mention the enormous time investment of having to fab things up themselves.

x_25 08-01-2017 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1431085)
FAKE NEWS!!

Find me a turbo that will make 7psi at 1500rpm on a 1.6. I need tonwork on my spark map, it pings like crazy if I try to use more than 3psi below 2500 though....

But yeah, that is only good for use in traffic and such when I don't feel like downshifting...

Braineack 08-01-2017 10:51 AM

find me a mp45 on a 1.6L making 7psi at 1500rpm...

plus boost level doesnt matter when the mp45 on a 1.6l makes 2hp per psi ignoring the fact that the mp45 also doesnt actually make 7psi at 1500rpm

x_25 08-01-2017 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1431098)
find me a mp45 on a 1.6L making 7psi at 1500rpm...


plus boost level doesnt matter when the mp45 on a 1.6l makes 2hp per psi ignoring the fact that the mp45 also doesnt actually make 7psi at 1500rpm


the mp45 on a 1.8L with upgraded pulleys still took to about 4K to make 7psi -- finally making 10psi at redline.

Mine makes 5hp per psi, TYVM. :P

The M45 will make 7psi down that low on a 1.6 cause the head flows like crap. It holds 7psi out to 3300 then tapers up to 9.5ish by 3800 and holds that out to redline where it tapers up to 10.5 or so. (Actual log showed 165-166kpa). But I am doing stupid things like a 150mm crank overlay paired with a 62.5mm nose pulley to drive the poor thing way too hard.

Seriously though, for the OP, just go with the MK, only reason I am playing with the supercharger is I got the kit waaaaay to cheap cause it needed some bearings that I could replace myself. I will easilly make money when I sell it.


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