gt2860rs .86AR turbine crew: how the hel do I get the bottom nutt off?
 

I can't get a wrench on this fucker with it in the car...do I have to pull the manifold out to get to 1 nut?

oh, and I've only broken 4-studs so far

this shit was a lot easier when the motor was on the stand.

It is a hellamotherfuckingbitchcuntwhoreassrapepainfest.

I ended up taking a combo wrench, cutting it into a shorty using the box end, and by trial and error removing bits of material from the wrench handle (and the box head), with a grinder until it barely worked. It is a lot easier with the manifold out or the engine on a stand. That is why I want to go to socket head cap screws and safety wire.

this will be the last time I take the turbo hardware out. Next time it fucks up I'm dropping it off at BEGi and letting them deal with it.

Trey, go at it from the bottom. Left arm ass-deep, under the manifold, and come at it from the bottom. The DP has to be way the fuck out of the way.

i had to take the manifold out to drill it anyway. This shit is a raging bitch. I will not do it twice.

I still don't understand why our koni-challenge 2.0T GTIs dont' break bolts/studs or have loosening issues. Even with Randy motherfucking Pobst driving them.

I assumed you gays used the 1-piece manifold/turbine housing.

stubby open end.

ps are you using anti-seize?

From the bottom, left arm indeed, like Sav says. I just retightened mine.
Is your nuclear loctite in yet?

I ordered some too, but it will probably be 2010 before customs clears my package...

negative because it exacerbated the problem on the VW.

Also, I managed to somehow whack my brake valve and now that's broken and leaking. Looks like my car is marooned in Little Rock...time to ship it home.

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You're using good grade 8 studs, right?

whatever begi sends. Right now I'm re-evaluating reality. Maybe a v-band set-up is the way to go.

Are you breaking studs off the trubo or manifold?

studs broken in the mani, studs broken into the dp side of the turbo. Shit is not pretty.

From you driving the car hard, or from your huge arms busting the studs while trying to figure out how to take them off?

You tried stubby's or a crows foot?

Chris

driving the car hard. I soaked them in penetrating oil and they still broke on the dp side. With any luck I'll penetrate you.

After what I've gone though today with more shit breaking and dealing with this crap, I think I've realized that I must go above and beyond what works for normal people and go with v-bands. Hopefully BEGi can do this in a timely fashion.

Am i really asking to much to have a turbo car that I don't have to disassemble everytime I track it? I don't mind little shit here and there, but taking the car appart incessantly, living in hotels doesn't make sense after already droping $4k on a turbo kit.

What are the chances that someone would want my manifold and dp for $600?

Fawk I really hope I don't have this problem... but with some of the things I've been through with broken fasteners.. I likely will join the ranks.

@hustler: how often did you check for loose nuts and retighten them? My feeling is that once it's loose beyond a level it will destruct itself in no-time. If you keep it tight-ish you'll live longer. Waiting for the space age thread locker to arrive here.

I checked daily after the first track event. Only the nuts on the top sides of stuffs are breaking.

Are they shearing when you are removing them? If so, smear some of this on the new stuff. Apply like peanut butter:

http://www.fastenal.com/web/showImag...=1244818923611

Product Details | 20gram Stick C5-A(R) Copper Anti-Seize | Fastenal

Products | Fastenal

It's good to 1800F, and you should be able to get this as an individual item in a store.

Chris

so...um...do you suggest I use this and thread locker? I'd rather have them seize and hold than continue coming loose.

Wow, sorry to hear about your ordeals hustler. It really does hurt me...knowing how much you put into your setup. Hopefully you can put in a little more and have something invincible.

It amazes me how many problems ya'll have. I don't track mine, but I drive pretty damn hard...hard enough to cause the DP to seperate completely at the clamped sleeve joint...and still no fastener probs. My exhaust is rigid as can be with a JEG's band style clamp and no flex joint.

I hope I don't have join the misery of the loose bolt crew.

I thought just the nuts were coming loose and you were searing the studs on removal. Put it just on the studs then, easier to tighten them up then have to have them drilled out.

Besides, I don't think Threadlocker is spec'd for over 450F.
https://tds.us.henkel.com//NA/UT/HNA...ile/266-EN.pdf

Chris

I'm using 2100* stuffs.

I can't even get the CRHA bolts out of the hotside...is this normal?

Cant reach them or seized? Is the turbo out yet? With the manifold, downpipe and turbo loose you can wiggle it out probably, it was hard to do with my 2560 not sure how much bigger yours is (11"?). I shortened the studs this time.

No.

not seized, but really tough to break loose. Should I use anti-sieze on those or just bolt them back up.

Johnwag is on his way to little rock with truck. :( There is retribution in my future though.

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turbo gaskets?

hustler if you stop being a fucking transvestite pussy you can just take that shit out. Don't tell me your punny ass is no match for a 14 mm bolt?

Find a proper wrench and stop molesting them with ill fitting tools. Or Dremel them out as they need replacing any way.

hey, lets run our mouths about shit we know nothing about!!!

Damn dude, I feel bad for you. I get way to frustrated for the smallest things I don't think I could handle that.

this is why I'm moving on to a simplified design because I think side-mounting is part of the problem. I don't mind little issues here and there...taking the turbo off after each track event will not happen.

No offense intended, we're in the same boat. I got a whole set of weird angle wrenches to get to these nuts. Anything normal won't suffice. That was putting it on. To disassemble I took my turbo and manifold to a shop locally to have them drill that gear out and put in new ones. I can't do that shit.

its the internet, I don't get offended.