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Ryan_G 02-02-2015 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by OGRacing (Post 1202324)

Why not get a reclining seat then?

Because they are bulky, heavy, usually cannot get you low enough, and require a BFH to install. Not a huge step up from my stock seats really so not worth the money. I would be willing to put a proper back brace on a fixed back to increase the rigidity if necessary but no one makes them which kind of blows my mind. The one company that made a good looking replica couldn't even keep them on the shelf. Every single batch sold out quickly. Granted they were a small operation but you would think at least one other company that distributes state side would make something similar. There are plenty of non FIA certified fixed back seats being made.

aidandj 02-02-2015 07:04 PM

Custom aluminum seat? Thick padding for the street, remove it for the track to get low?

asmasm 02-02-2015 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1202350)
Custom aluminum seat? Thick padding for the street, remove it for the track to get low?

A kirkey pro street drag with good bracing and a poured foam insert. Urethane foam inserts take a few hours of your time make but the seat becomes very comfortable supportive.

Chilicharger665 02-03-2015 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1202327)
Because they are bulky, heavy, usually cannot get you low enough, and require a BFH to install. Not a huge step up from my stock seats really so not worth the money. I would be willing to put a proper back brace on a fixed back to increase the rigidity if necessary but no one makes them which kind of blows my mind. The one company that made a good looking replica couldn't even keep them on the shelf. Every single batch sold out quickly. Granted they were a small operation but you would think at least one other company that distributes state side would make something similar. There are plenty of non FIA certified fixed back seats being made.

Marrad from Goodwin Racing. No certs, but they get you LOW, have harness slots, and have sliders. I have had mine for over two years and put many, many 8 hour trips and nearly 30k miles on my Miata since then. They are very comfortable.

sixshooter 02-03-2015 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by asmasm (Post 1202367)
A kirkey pro street drag

I have this. If you have a delicate ass, you can also put a thin layer of foam rubber or upholstery foam padding under the insert. I'm using a piece of 1/2in foam rubber cut from one of the floor mats you put down where you would have to stand on a hard floor all day. It reduces pressure points if you drive it for 8 hours at a time.

NiklasFalk 02-03-2015 08:22 AM

Less than "max" length of the legs (36" inseam start to get complicated) and a taller torso/longer arms? Spacer for the steering wheel (or a dished one) and tilt the seat back bit to lower the head.
I use a OMP ARS (which have relative low sides) with the rear of the side brackets on the floor (no humps) and the front up on the crossmember. 6'2.5" and 34" inseam and I have no problem having my helmet inside my cage.
I have about 4" between the seat and the rear bulkhead at the floor level (longer legs and you will have less).
About 1" can be found by adjusting the pedals a bit (to prevent lifting the left leg that high).

You never know until you try with yourself in your car, but why should you do things the easy way :D.

sixshooter 02-03-2015 09:09 AM

My Kirkey is bolted to the floor (6'1", 32" inseam) and tilted back so the rearmost angle of the seat bottom is flat with the floor. I use a 1" steering wheel spacer in addition to a QR and the Momo adapter.

Sitting in Ryan's stock MSM passenger seat feels like I am sitting up "on" the car rather than down in the car. It feels very vulnerable and insecure. My helmet sticks up 3 inches above the bar in his passenger seat so I can't ride with him.

OGRacing 02-03-2015 03:11 PM

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I'm going to BSCI on Friday to have a demo with their foam seats. might be something worth considering for those with aluminum seats looking to make them more comfortable.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1422994288

Chooofoojoo 02-03-2015 04:09 PM

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Relevant to my interests.

6'4", 33" waist, 36.5" inseam. Hardtop with HDHCDDHTomgbbq roll bar AND door bars. Foamectomy'd the crap out of stock seats and they get me very close, but provide almost no lateral support.

Looking for fixed back track-oriented seat, with lower side bolsters. The Cobra Imola S seems to fit my criteria (left most in picture) Same upper as the popular Suzuka, but with tapered side bolsters.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1422997799

They run about $800, and I would imagine I'd need to fab some sort of direct-to-floorpan mounting solution.

Haven't seen one mounted in Miata. Thoughts?

Ryan_G 02-03-2015 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Chooofoojoo (Post 1202606)
Relevant to my interests.

6'4", 33" waist, 36.5" inseam. Hardtop with HDHCDDHTomgbbq roll bar AND door bars. Foamectomy'd the crap out of stock seats and they get me very close, but provide almost no lateral support.

Looking for fixed back track-oriented seat, with lower side bolsters. The Cobra Imola S seems to fit my criteria (left most in picture) Same upper as the popular Suzuka, but with tapered side bolsters.

They run about $800, and I would imagine I'd need to fab some sort of direct-to-floorpan mounting solution.

Haven't seen one mounted in Miata. Thoughts?

I know the Imola S fit and I think you can find threads on either m.net or cr.net that cover it. I was also considering the cobra racer 7 myself. I need to sit in ine though.

halfpint 02-03-2015 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by OGRacing (Post 1202278)
your 100% right. we have had quite a few people install the omp style. it's a squeeze into a miata but it can be done. this will aso give you the provisions for a 5/6 point harness.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1422910153

I don't see this seat on the website. Link please?

EricJ 02-03-2015 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by ZOOMNBY (Post 1202008)
Are there any mounts that will accommodate for sliders so as to permit more than one person to use the car without having to unbolt, readjust, and re-bolt race seats?

Like ChiliCharger, I have two Marrad seats from Goodwin. The bottom of the seat is about 1/4" from the floor. It sits between the sliders. With the full cushions it's daily drive-able, but 8 hr trips are not fun. Without the cushions I'm under the HD HT HC DD.
They're a compromise seat, not a full race seat, but have the 5 point harness holes; not really a DD seat.
They look a little pricey, but you get the mounting bracket, sliders and all the hardware. If you total up an Evo II w/ brackets and sliders, it's about the same.
For me it was bolt in, fits the Miata, and I can fit in it (275lbs).

Larimer 02-04-2015 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect (Post 1202269)
This post is just straight up something awful.

:)

It sounds like poured foam would be the best way to do it so the seat wouldn't be terrible. I'll have to do some googling on it later.

OGRacing 02-05-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 1202687)
I don't see this seat on the website. Link please?

we dont stock that particular seat. so it wont be on the websight. I called and OMP has them in stock. pm me for ordering. it retails for $399.00 we offer free shipping.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1423149532


Frame: tubular steel.

Fixing points: M8 lower 345x270 mm (type Y).
3 seat belt openings.

• Precision reclining mechanism and quick-tilting mechanism to facilitate rear seat access.
• Upholstered in a textured fabric "A-tex Evo", abrasion resistant, comfortable in hot or cold conditions, thickness: 3 mm

Comply with European Directive 96/37/EC.

OGRacing 02-05-2015 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Larimer (Post 1203060)
:)

It sounds like poured foam would be the best way to do it so the seat wouldn't be terrible. I'll have to do some googling on it later.

i'll be at bsci tomorrow with 3 go pros. we are going to make a seat insert into my Sparco Pro ADV. i'll see if i can make it sit me lower. expect a how to video.

Larimer 02-05-2015 05:45 PM

This would be amazing. Please do this. :)

Mobius 02-06-2015 01:21 AM

I also have the Marrad seat.

It is more comfortable than my foamectomied stock seat, by far, with the cushions in.

It gets me under my hard dog m2 sport (hard top compatible bar) easily when the cushions are out. I'm 6'2, 34" inseam.

I have no cons to report after having had this seat for a year. For a dual-purpose, dual-driver compatible seat, it is the one.

asmasm 02-06-2015 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1203546)
I also have the Marrad seat.

It is more comfortable than my foamectomied stock seat, by far, with the cushions in.

It gets me under my hard dog m2 sport (hard top compatible bar) easily when the cushions are out. I'm 6'2, 34" inseam.

I have no cons to report after having had this seat for a year. For a dual-purpose, dual-driver compatible seat, it is the one.

Did you have any issues with the harness install? My dad bought a Marrrad seat for his track car. He brought it to HMS motorsports to do the harness install and they thought the shoulder strap holes were too close together to do a safe installation.

Mobius 02-06-2015 12:08 PM

? My shoulder straps go over my shoulders where they are supposed to. Do you have a neck like a running back, or no neck at all or something? How far apart do they have to be for you?

The seat is patterned after the Recaro SPG, I believe, upsized a bit. I cannot fit into an SPG as the shoulder slots are too low for my manly frame. Low = compression of spine under impact load == very bad. Too wide and you risk slipping between the straps under impact load.

asmasm 02-06-2015 12:50 PM

I wasn't there and I haven't sat in one of these. I would have called bullshit except HMS does a lot of safety equipment installs.


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