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elesjuan 01-22-2009 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 356737)
HID Xenon Kits, HID Bulbs, HID Accessories

This place is popular and reputable with the Bimmer and VW crowd.

Thats the ApexCone kit, which has the lifetime warranty. I Purchased and installed one of these on my Protege, very very pleased with it!

Ben 01-22-2009 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 356737)
HID Xenon Kits, HID Bulbs, HID Accessories

This place is popular and reputable with the Bimmer and VW crowd.

I ordered 3 HID kits from them on 1-8-09. Getting nothing more than run around as of today at 2pm eastern.
They claim that they do not have ballasts I ordered in stock, but will "upgrade" me to ballasts they do have for like $60 more.

johndoe 01-22-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 350804)
DON'T get the 50w kit if you're not running projectors!
;

What's the difference between the 50 and 35 in a non-projector light? Just too bright?

gospeed81 01-22-2009 07:39 PM

The problem is too much scatter.

Non-projector throw out all kinds of random light, and the 50W makes that scattered junk 43% brighter, which means what was mildly annoying to other drivers is now a dangerous pain in the ass worthy of following home.

AbeFM 01-22-2009 07:52 PM

Maybe in your lights. My non-projectors on the NB are awesome awesome, I've tested and tested, ridden behind friends, cops, etc, and had no issues. 50W, they work perfect. The place shipped out my order fast, etc. It's like $100/car, personally, given the quality, I would say it's a no brainer, EVERYTHING you need is included.

johndoe 01-22-2009 07:59 PM

Abe did you mention where you got yours somewhere that I missed?

gospeed81 01-22-2009 07:59 PM

Miata specific they may be alright, I don't know yet. I hope to use the E codes on my NA.

But speaking generally with most cars (my experience is with wife's cavalier), there is a lot of scatter, and the higher wattage makes it horrible. I'm seriously tempted to take them out of that pussy car, and I've adjusted them until they're pushing down on the bumper.

My wife really likes the light though, so I'll probably be looking into painting sections inside the reflector housing.

johndoe 01-22-2009 08:23 PM

I'm tempted to try this because of the price. I already have e-codes and a sperate wiring harness for the bulbs installed. eBay Motors: HID XENON CONVERSION KIT H3/H4/H7/H10/H11/H13/D2S/D2R+ (item 280304354599 end time Jan-22-09 18:40:57 PST)

gospeed81 01-22-2009 08:35 PM

I think Joe Perez said they work really well in the E-codes, but I don't remember the thread title.

akaryrye 01-22-2009 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 357308)
I ordered 3 HID kits from them on 1-8-09. Getting nothing more than run around as of today at 2pm eastern.
They claim that they do not have ballasts I ordered in stock, but will "upgrade" me to ballasts they do have for like $60 more.

If you ordered the raptor kit, I think there is a wait for some reason. The manufacturer talks about them here: .:DDM Tuning - A Little More About Raptor HID - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum

thesnowboarder 01-22-2009 11:56 PM

A few of my friends have the VVME.com kits on there cars. For the price they are very satisfied. So far only one for my friends in the past year has had any issues with his. (and he drives around with his on 24/7) They are cheap and replaceable for the price.

Joe Perez 01-23-2009 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 357401)
I think Joe Perez said they work really well in the E-codes, but I don't remember the thread title.

Actually, I was just quoting others, and it was in this very thread: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t28276-2/#post351183

gospeed81 01-23-2009 12:19 AM

See, that's how good my memory is. Sorry, was studying, didn't have time to look it up.

AbeFM 01-23-2009 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 357373)
Abe did you mention where you got yours somewhere that I missed?

Got them on ebay, from a guy who did me a nice group buy last time, the more you get the cheaper they are. I was thinking of trying to get together another buy but it doesn't look like there is a lot of interest....

ZX-Tex 01-23-2009 03:18 PM

I'm interested for a '99-'00 stock headlamp setup. If no group buy gets going, I would like to know what exactly you got and from what buyer.

elesjuan 01-23-2009 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 357374)
Miata specific they may be alright, I don't know yet. I hope to use the E codes on my NA.

But speaking generally with most cars (my experience is with wife's cavalier), there is a lot of scatter, and the higher wattage makes it horrible. I'm seriously tempted to take them out of that pussy car, and I've adjusted them until they're pushing down on the bumper.

My wife really likes the light though, so I'll probably be looking into painting sections inside the reflector housing.

Maybe its just the crappy housing GM manufactured for that car?

I'm running HID lights in my Protege and it doesn't just scatter light everywhere. When it gets dark I'll take a photo of those, its pretty incredible how well they work. Once I got them adjusted properly I can see well over 1/4 mile ahead and have yet to be flashed by oncoming motorists or pulled over by da fuzz.

AbeFM 01-23-2009 05:21 PM

OK then, converting this back into an official feeler. Who would be interested in 55W HID kits, regular ballasts (weigh about the same, fit under headlight body really nicely on an NB), "dual xenon" meaning the entire bulb is mounted on a little solenoid and sticks in and out, comes with all wiring, keyed, water proof plugs, fuse, relay, etc etc.

I will post pics of it installed later.

Anyway, assume they are ~$100, but I think I can get it cheaper. Once I know how many people are in, I'll see what I can get the price knocked down to. I imagine with 10 we'd be looking at a nice discount.

You can get them in any color (I'm happy with 4500), and they also happen to work very well in a suzuki TL1000R :-) They come with a few different blinders to accommodate different headlight set ups, but didn't require adjusting on my car after putting it.

ZX-Tex 01-23-2009 05:30 PM

^^ I'm in exactly as described above.
The Silverstar Ultras are great, but not very durable in my experience (and others). I'm ready to try something else.

johndoe 01-23-2009 06:03 PM

What kind of warranty do they come with?

elesjuan 01-23-2009 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by AbeFM (Post 357898)
OK then, converting this back into an official feeler. Who would be interested in 55W HID kits, regular ballasts (weigh about the same, fit under headlight body really nicely on an NB), "dual xenon" meaning the entire bulb is mounted on a little solenoid and sticks in and out, comes with all wiring, keyed, water proof plugs, fuse, relay, etc etc.

I will post pics of it installed later.

Anyway, assume they are ~$100, but I think I can get it cheaper. Once I know how many people are in, I'll see what I can get the price knocked down to. I imagine with 10 we'd be looking at a nice discount.

You can get them in any color (I'm happy with 4500), and they also happen to work very well in a suzuki TL1000R :-) They come with a few different blinders to accommodate different headlight set ups, but didn't require adjusting on my car after putting it.

Link for example of the item you got??


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