hid in stock blinker position
 

so i got around to doing my hid/blinker mod
i have a set of 6k hid's in the pop ups, but i dont like having those open at highway speed, well, frankly, i dont like having them up anymore. so i did this today.
i took a set of hid's and fit them into the blinkers, so now instead of a blinker, i have an hid there. This works great on the highway and driving around town, but on back roads with dense trees, i pop the head lights and use those hids for a more spread beam.

they fit great, i just used some hot glue to seat them perfectly. they produce more light than stock headlights, but not as much light as an hid in the stock position.

and yes, i chose 25k..... :giggle:


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**ps** i still need an hid ballast, if anyone has a working one, thanx


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holy shit those seem bright, you sure you need those on back roads? they look brighter than stock at the very least

It looks like the HID bulb is using the inside and lens of the turn signal as the reflector and lens. I'm guessing the light isn't directed to the road very well and has lot's of scatter explaining the need for suplimental light on dark twisty roads. Any concerns with the plastic lens and heat?

i threw hid's into my 7 inch barn door, and took off the beam protectors, and the little metal things that cut the beam some,, drive with those on, and anything else seems like its barely on.

the light is scattered, yes, and as for heat,, lol :hustler: hadn't considered it
i figure its made just like the head light which can stand it, and its designed for my blinkers to be in them, so its close enough :eek5:

I remember over the years reading about problems with HID's in the turn signals housings. They get too hot for the small area of plastic and start to melt things. This was from m.net days I read this....probably why more people haven't done it.

If it was me, I would get a set of new clear ones off ebay that don't have the pattern on the lens. They wouldn't looks so reflective right on the lens like they do now. And you'd get a better view from them I'd think.

I have a set and smoked them, for like $40 they look dope. I might use them in place of my TSI's. I wonder how you'll hold up, let us know after a week or so.


Vash-

you know it's the wrong beam pattern when your neighbors on the third floor are blind.

HOLY SHIT! I've been waiting months for this thread, Well done! LOL!!!

awesome awesome awesome. I hope the pattern is good.

so I had to test it.. HID reverse light is fucking SWEET.. you can see like 100+ yards behind the car. gets WAY too hot, though.

+1

Not a bad look...drivers must hate you though.

So did you loose the function of your front blinker?

I'm interested to see how this works, although it looks like it would REALLY piss off everyone on the road. I remeber a sig something like "HID in miata=asshole" now it could be "HIDs all over the front of the car=megadousche".

And wait, don't HIDs need a ballast to work?

You should wire the hid's up to the blinker wires....and let the whole godamn world you're turning.

You think it would be ok for bursts while stopped at lights to blind SUV drivers?? I would seriously do this when those fuckers pull right up on my ass at stop lights..... just to let them know how i feel.

I can't imagine itd hurt things at all for a few seconds, maybe a minute or two.

Frequently at night if I have my top up (20% tint) I can't see anything out my back window, and on my Speed6 (5% tint) can't ever see shit while backing.. Was thinking if I upgraded to some HID lighting in the reverse lights, then I could see perfectly fine what was behind me. Did replace the Speed6 incandescent bulbs with some SMD-LED replacements. Something like 25 LEDs on it and they're pretty bright, but obviously nothing to an HID bulb.

As for the HID blinker, I would suspect ballast life would be shortened significantly having it blink on and off all the time. Most likely the igniter would go bad. :mad:

So you hooked up the ballast and all in your revers lights? awesome!
As for the blinker HID.... if it becomes a problem, jsut buy those cheap ass kits off egay

the bulb won't last long either... especially since you'll be turning it on and of and on and off before the bulb even gets a chance to warm up

your white balance is off.

I think this is a terrible idea, first, you will melt your turn signal, this is already proven, second, you have no pattern, just a bright ass light all over the place which means you will get hit by oncoming traffic sooner or later, third, you are subject to tickets now even more.
Bad idea, sorry for sounding like a Mnet mod, but I dissagree with this.

I'm with you there. However, if it wouldnt melt the signal, i would do it on a switch. I drive on back country roads a lot where deer are very common. I would love to have a ridiculously bright set of lights that i could use for those back roads. Definitely not something i would want to use all the time.

Someone posted a link in a thread in just the last few day about different lighting, read up on it, there are solutions other than HID. I am really wanting to beef up my wires and use competition bulbs I learned about yesterday...the sex!!!

any idea on that link?

im in the process of moving the blinkers, in the holes right next to where they sat originally.
then i will be making a vent on the back of the housing to promote cooling, ill let you guys know if i melt anything, i have another set of blinkers and hid;s just in case lol

Holy Shit.... there is a Pac-Man ghost running down the street!

:rofl:

Joe, that's not you is it? :eek5:

No, Thats me. :giggle:

You say there are solutions other than HID, but is that why High quality professional dive lights are HID, highway construction lighting is HID based, even Rally lights are all HID...;)


Sorry to shit on your parade, but an electronic arc inside a gas capsule is the brightest fucking thing next to an atom bomb... NO piece of glowing tungsten is ever going to come close, no matter what gas the manufacture claims engulfs it. :)

The 100 watt German made HELLA bulbs in my 2000 Protege don't even come remotely close to the light output of my 6000k china HID lights on the miata, and I NEVER EVER get flashed by oncoming traffic in the Miata. Do in the protege all the time, even with the 80 watt low beams on.

You don't even have turnsignal lenses, stay out of my parade!!! lol

ok, so i just drove the car around for 35 minutes with them on, everything from traffic conditions, to highway, to well, anything u can think of.

had only one screw holding in one of the blinkers, took it apart as soon as i got in the driveway, with them still on, and they are luke warm to the touch, nothing more, no melting or anything. and i have only a 15 min highway ride from work, which is when i have these on, so far, works great.

Stock turn signal bulbs in the city light portion of the turn signals will start to melt the lense. It did on mine. ebay led replacements did the trick for that location.

If there is no cutoff on the HIDs in those housings... take them out. Nothing is worse than not being able to see because some cheapass put HIDs in his car and doesn't care about blinding the other drivers on the road.

<----- cheap ass asshole who doesn't care about blinding others on the road lol

Coo. Added to block list :)

You and Ben......

screw you. my junx don't blind no one

No, it's a trophy truck running the Baja 1000. Those guys put 8 to 12 (or more) reflector-style HIDs on their vehicles (no cutoff) pointed up, down, left, right, basically it's like driving around with a dwarf star strapped to the roof.

they outnumber you. dont be a jackass.

ha ha ha

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

I hope they do melt, ha ha! But seriously, I hate idiots who do riced out crap like this without regard for others.

More info on the LED's please.

I don't even USE turn signals... I go my own way, and if I get stopped... "You didn't see my hand?" "Nope, must've missed it." "Your bad." :bowrofl:

"you can't write me a ticket! I'm a tax payer, you can't write me tickets." Show those fucking pigs.

:jerkit:

only rice mod on my car is 25k hid in my tsi's, big deal. i see miata's around here with alteza tailks, awsome blacked out head lights, chrome 17's....
yea, i personally think mine is one of the cleaner ones,

anyway, to each his own



im now in the process of taking everything off the car that makes it look modified,
its really really nice not getting pulled over, cops around here are dicks. i took the rims off, changed the hid's to lower k to give more white light, so far, so good. now i just need a set of those multi spoke miata wheels i see some of you have.

the car sat like this almost since ive owned it,

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i think for a boosted miata that holds its own against sti's/evo's, ive done a good job

Color temp is measured in degrees Kelvin. When you say 25k, are you saying your lights are 25 degrees Kelvin (unheard of, would be basically red), or 25000 degrees K (also unheard of, would be extremely blue)? I believe 2500K is available for foglights etc as a very yellow light.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ckianLocus.png

oh sam whips out his CIE color chart like some badass mofo!

6000-7000 is going to give you what most people see as "pure white" like the white on your monitor screen.

Normal halogens are between 2800-3500 I believe.

I could imagine someone making a 25000K HID just so they look ridiculously blue.

The problem is that the eye is most sensitive to yellow-green light (remember the firetrucks?) but less sensitive to blue light.

Thank god your in Kansas. I follow people who don't use their blinkers and beat them with shovels when they aren't expecting it.

Seriously, use your blinkers and don't be an asshat.

i dont think they are indeed 25000, but dam near close to it,
they are advertised here

http://www.hidworld.com/

i got them from a friend, and as seen in the pictures, they produce a deep deep purple light,

i however have since replaced them with my 6k ones

Haha, Just kidding. :fawk:

Seriously, I do use them but only if theres traffic around. If there are any vehicles around the front of my car and I'm turning left, I'll stick my arm out and indicate where I'm going.. along with my side marker up front blinking.. You guys might think I'm a total douche, but I'm not.. I swear. :giggle:

:cool:

Really though 4300k is the best usuable light to the human eye though. the more above that you go, the more blue/purple you get, but the usuable light output starts going to shit REAL quick. The reason lying with the fact that blue light scatters so easily and seeing as its a little harder to pick up for our eyes...any scattering is bad.

Most OEMs use 4300-4500k, optimally according to the research I've done around 5k is about the brightest possible viewable light you can apply to headlamps.. Plus IMHO its the best possible color.

im running 6k HIDs in mine. works perfect for me.

yeah, cant we get a mod in here to take care of that shit?

they do have 25 and 30k lights.... basically look like blue and purple LED's...completely annoying and useless shit anyway.

I still want to put HID's in my reverse lights so when SUVs ride up my bumper i can blind them back...

Just find the bulb # typically used and search google/ebay for led versions. Without a resistor... you get hyperblinkers... just a warning :p. But they should last forever and put off no heat.

If you get LEDs, get surface mounted