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Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 09:46 AM

How accurate is Data Log Lab??
 
I finally got around to getting some data logs of my car and was playing with them im DLL. I got it to show a power graph (with needed input..weight,gear,transmission) and it's showing some hp/tq numbers. How accurate is this?

Side note, anyone have much exp. with this program? Im having some trouble understanding some aspects of it :(

Ben 03-17-2008 09:51 AM

Curious what the results were?

Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 10:02 AM

not saying until i get some feedback :)

Ben 03-17-2008 10:09 AM

then it's totally, horribly, and catastrophically optimistic

Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 10:16 AM

lol... i knew you would say that!

m2cupcar 03-17-2008 10:29 AM

There are elements it just can't account for - like grades and wind. I made adjustments to the settings for the "power" results to match my dyno sheet - but they were way off on my peak horsepower and way under on my curves pre-peak. Nearly everybody says the same thing - use it for before and after tuning, but not for making dyno power claims.

y8s 03-17-2008 10:32 AM

the power curves in DLL dont resemble dyno curves. Here's a fun example:

http://y8spec.com/dyno/20070506_notuning.jpg

here's a real dyno plot of my car (not at the same time)

http://y8spec.com/dyno/070512_dyno003_8psi.jpg

I have the datalogs from the second graph at home. maybe I'll run those through DLL and see how the curve looks for you.

Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 10:49 AM

so it looks like it is not too far off crank hp...

Well here was mine *puts flame suit on*

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../DLLpower1.jpg

Ben 03-17-2008 10:53 AM

LOL, that's inline with what I was expecting. Your car makes closer to 250 :)

Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 10:59 AM

^^ which would imply that it isn't far off the crank hp (+- a few hp). So i figure maybe 15% loss in drivetrain and get 260rwhp and 237rwtq

And this is at 10psi. (ok, 10.5). While i wait to gather funds to take it to get dyno tuned, i sent Jeremy the data log and map for fun to see what improvements he can make. I want to hook up the EBC and run 12-13psi..which should get me closer to 270-ish.

Zabac 03-17-2008 12:01 PM

Ben, is this is how FM gets the 291 figure :bowrofl:

m2cupcar 03-17-2008 12:32 PM

Mike - 260rwhp at 10psi would be nothing short of phenomenal, given what y8s got (240rwhp @12psi) with his custom setup and a standalone. :dunno: Unless there's more to your car tan stated in your sig. ;)

y8s 03-17-2008 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 229098)
Mike - 260rwhp at 10psi would be nothing short of phenomenal, given what y8s got (240rwhp @12psi) with his custom setup and a standalone. :dunno: Unless there's more to your car tan stated in your sig. ;)

oh sorry, you want this graph.

sure it's not quite 260 rwhp, but it also aint quite 10 psi.

m2cupcar 03-17-2008 01:39 PM

Damn. Ok - maybe I was remembering an earlier dyno... impressive nonetheless.

Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 02:07 PM

Well then if y8s' car is about the same as mine (10:1 comp/2560r/Hydra/2.5" exhaust/fairly large intercooler/550's) then my guestimate isn't far off ?

Ben 03-17-2008 02:20 PM

matt's running a 2876r

y8s 03-17-2008 02:28 PM

and 3" exhaust.

but I mean you can use DLL for power graphs. just dont compare them to a real dyno. the best way to use DLL power graphs is to find a stretch of road that is the following:

1. long
2. flat
3. cop free
4. point A easily entered from a dead stop or <10 mph in 2nd.
5. point B easily exited shortly after redline in 2nd.
6. has a quick route from point B to A with a parking lot and good lighting

and then you can do a run, make changes, do a run and see if you improve power or not.

m2cupcar 03-17-2008 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 229157)
and 3" exhaust....

and cat?

y8s 03-17-2008 04:08 PM

yep

Doppelgänger 03-17-2008 05:10 PM

hmmmmmm


I do want to go with a 3" system...but that would require a BEGI or custom DP and custom exhaust.....both cost more money then have to spend at the moment :(


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