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Snowsurfer03 11-13-2006 10:29 AM

I'll take sloppy 2nds on rockin' that fine piece!

I sill prefer the vert option though.
I guess thats just me.

The new NC has a auto hard top option.
Has anyone tourboed the NC yet?

Fritch 11-13-2006 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Snowsurfer03 (Post 56662)
The new NC has a auto hard top option.
Has anyone tourboed the NC yet?

no matter how fast ugly is, I still wouldn't buy one

GTS Miata 11-13-2006 01:30 PM

I landed a hardtop for free years ago, all I had to do was paint it. I used for the few months of "winter" here in Georgia over a couple years. It was nice when it was cold out, but for those random days when it warmed up outside, I hated it because it is a pain to take off by myself.

I ended up selling it once the miata was no longer my daily driver, it was just collecting dust hanging on the wall.

If you live in an area with a true winter, you'll love it... If you are in an area with mild winters and occasional temp. spikes to the 60's in Dec./Jan./Feb. like here in Georgia, don't bother.

kyle242gt 11-13-2006 01:55 PM

I really really really really really really wanted a HT. But I also wanted a 1.8L. And I wanted something that wasn't white, black, or red. So, sigh, no HT.

But I'm not sorry in the least.

I have a HT for my 1994 BMW 325ic, and it's night and day. Chassis much stiffer, rear visibility is loads better, less noise, less rattles and creaks, etc.

The Miata, though, appears to be a much better composed chassis, so the rattles, squeaks, etc aren't present in the first place. And the glass windowed soft top is fine for visibility (yeah, there's a blind spot, but you figure that out quick enough). And the heater is excellent, so it isn't really hard to stay warm... plus, then when there's breaks in the weather, you can drop the top.

I do like the appearance of the HT, and might pick one up for track days and investment; but that wouldn't be until next summer, and only if I find one for $500-700. Screw paying wintertime prices for a HT. That $1000 would get me halfway to my turbo, or get a sweet suspension setup, or pay for a handful of track days.

Splitime 11-13-2006 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Snowsurfer03 (Post 56625)
Hardtops look nice but why would you drive a convert if you can't use it?

Because its light, 50/50 balance from factory, and rwd ;)

I have a hardtop on mine and its getting fully bolted in and down. Will never come off. Car is being setup as a track car with ability to be street driven though... I definitly didn't buy it for its top down abilities ;)

hustler 11-13-2006 04:37 PM

I use my hard top when the wind is hot (texas summer), too cold, or raining. Its nice to have, but I wouldn't go out and buy one since I have a daily driver.

gurehamu 11-13-2006 05:53 PM

picked one up yesterday
 
I bought a 00 miata last week and picked up a hardtop last night. The ride home was dramatically quieter. Being a (mostly) daily driver and living in MN, it's a nice extra. Although, it will be coming off for the two weeks of summer we get up here.

I ended up paying $900 for mine. Probably high... but it was local, in perfect condition, in the right color, and with the right connectors.

hmm... I vaugely remember they could be picked up for a couple hundred when I owned my 96.

Ben 11-13-2006 06:05 PM

OK, first drive after getting the top. It was only 5 miles and I didn't get over 50. My initial impression is I like it a lot. There was definately less road and wind noise, though I could hear the car more. I never heard the Walbro wine while driving until now. I still had a little wind noise coming from the back of the side windows where they meet the tops c pillar that I hope spitime's striker plates take care of. The car definately felt more stable and makes me understand why people buy the FM braces. Visibility is greatly improved. And... I was able to LOCK THE DOORS.

I understand where SamNavy is coming from. I used to be an avid motorcycle rider. I would ride in heat, cold, mild rain, basically anything but a hard downpour or ice. There was a point where I didn't drive my car to work at all for 4 months. The only reason that ended was a bad knee and leg injury. So I don't mind driving with the top down when it's 30 deg outside, and I don't need the hardtop. But it's a lot nicer to have that option.

Ben

bripab007 11-14-2006 08:54 AM

People buy the FM braces because they stiffen the chassis of the car. You may think it does because of reduced NVH levels, but the top does not stiffen the chassis of the car.

It's made of fiberglass. If it were a structural component it would not be made of of fiberglass, and it would have a sturdier mounting scheme.

hustler 11-14-2006 10:29 AM

What are "spitime's striker plates?"

bripab007 11-14-2006 10:51 AM

Probably the user he purchased the hardtop from. Or from whom he purchased just the striker plates.

EDIT: Here he is --> https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/member.php?u=1199

Ben 11-14-2006 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by bripab007 (Post 56926)
People buy the FM braces because they stiffen the chassis of the car. You may think it does because of reduced NVH levels, but the top does not stiffen the chassis of the car.

It's made of fiberglass. If it were a structural component it would not be made of of fiberglass, and it would have a sturdier mounting scheme.

Everything in your above statement had crossed my mind. Bear in mind my ht driving experience is limited to 5 miles of gentle driving.


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 56936)
What are "spitime's striker plates?"

splitime=a forum member and I'm buying oem side striker plates from him (the plates that attatch to the body behind the doors that the top's side latches lock into). He's permanately bolting his top down and won't need the latches and plates.

jayc72 11-14-2006 11:10 AM

I really loved my hardtop ... loved the $1000 I got for it. :) I had my hardtop sold before I took delivery of the car.

The only time I wished I had the hardtop is when I have to autocross in the rain. I hate wearing a helmet in the car with the softtop on.

Pitlab77 11-14-2006 01:31 PM

harddog sells side latches that are different that the eme latches. They are "thinner?" i think so that a roll bar maybe used.

I have them sitting in my garage and am using factory lathches. They look nice.

magnamx-5 11-14-2006 01:58 PM

The hard top is made of fiberglass beocuse it is cheaper than alluminum and lighter than steel it realy does make a difference esp when installed properly.

kotomile 11-14-2006 06:24 PM

+1 for getting the miata because it's light and RWD!!

The fact that it's a convertible wasn't the reason I was interested.

PaKMaN 11-14-2006 08:16 PM

I just purchased a hardtop. Do you guys think it is a good idea to weld it on?

Al Hounos 11-14-2006 08:20 PM

:dancegay:

cjernigan 11-14-2006 08:51 PM

I wouldn't weld it, but I also like easily reversible mods that include being able to take the top off. Even if it is going to be a track car, i'm not sure I would go as far as to weld it. Latches should be easy enough to come by. You can always try partsgroup.com and mazmart.com as well if you can't find them privately.

bripab007 11-14-2006 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 56966)
The hard top is made of fiberglass beocuse it is cheaper than alluminum and lighter than steel it realy does make a difference esp when installed properly.

Now when you say "difference," do you mean, "makes a difference in lowering NVH levels?" Because I'll readily agree with you there.

But it certainly does not "make a difference" with regard to chassis rigidity. If it did, the fiberglass would crack :td:


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